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Post #1991406

2026-04-20 13:04 UTC

@arclight @johannab Yes, that is the most unaddressed group, suffering the externalities if they are negative. But they can also be positive, bring indirect benefits, it all depends. So victims is not the best word. Umm, let's see.. In the most general sense #SX distinguishes between #commons and the #public. "The public" is then the word, the wider public, everyone touched. But that's not very useful other than talking handwavingly. In many cases I suspect it is best to refine to a domain-specific stakeholder name. E.g. if you are the Lung Health Institute you may have "The public affected by Smokers" and then divide the public into Non-smokers, Asthma patients, Covid patients, etc. either direct or indirect stakeholders who suffer the externalities when in close proximity to a Smoker direct/indirect stakeholder. Btw, I posted on @aral observations on "user" and started practicing my avoidance from there on, though gradually at first, takes practice. https://discuss.coding.social/t/humane-design-avoiding-the-term-user/61

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  • @johannab@cosocial.ca 2026-04-21 02:51

    @smallcircles @arclight "Victims" is kind of 😬 but also, not inaccurate in the context of recent technology culture. My perspective is from the "inside" of enterprise medical tech. Some examples that companies externalize: -- more readily available diagnostic imaging leads to many people being unnecessarily identified with injury/disease, despite it not being clinically significant. Trauma and death from unnecessary treatment exists. -- "optimizing" health care, with fast comms or ... 1/?

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