@papageier@digitalcourage.social
Post #1953587
2026-02-22 12:13 UTC
Replies (11)
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@brokenshell@mastodon.social 2026-02-22 12:51
@papageier You are right that there has always been a protest to mechanising jobs. Black smiths when a nail cutting machine was invented for example. There is a difference here since a notable portion of its function is at the academic level. So let's say I need to write a book report, instead of reading the book I read an LLM summary, then write and publish my report.
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@WesternInfidels@mefi.social 2026-02-22 16:25
@papageier @reading_recluse I've done some weaving with a manual loom, and I think your attempt to draw a parallel between machine weaving and LLMs is absurd, wrong in most of the specifics and missing the point of much LLM criticism.
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@violetmadder@kolektiva.social 2026-02-22 17:30
@papageier @reading_recluse Go back and read up on what the Luddites were actually protesting, jackass. They were not mindless technophobes. Machine-woven cloth IN AND OF ITSELF is NOT inherently exploitative. It could have been used instead to elevate and improve the textile trade, making life easier for the workers. Instead, the way the capitalists weaponized the tech to devalue labor was fucking evil. Tech is not inherently good or bad. It's just a tool. "AI" and LLMs, as they are currently being designed and deployed, are a tool being used as a WEAPON. Child-raping technofascist planetwreckers are using them to enclose the digital commons, jam any useful signals they don't control, and surveil the everloving shit out of everyone everywhere. If we don't protest like our lives depend on it, NOW, things are going to get unimaginably and horrifyingly fucking bad.
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@sortius@infosec.exchange 2026-02-22 19:05
@papageier @reading_recluse what a load of brain rotted crap
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@Okanogen@mastodon.social 2026-02-23 07:37
@papageier @reading_recluse Hand woven clothes are not generally superior, tho. You know that, right? I mean, you do, right? Hand weave a cotton t-shirt, please. Or a fleece jacket. Or tights. I would like to see that done. LLMs are inherently racist, sexist, and reductive, because the online society they sample is racist, sexist, amd reductive. It is baked in.
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@yaxu@post.lurk.org 2026-02-23 07:45
@papageier @reading_recluse All that's left of this is the union movement, e.g. workers' rights, 5 day working week, paid time off, etc etc
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@tinfoilchefspickaxe@app.wafrn.net 2026-02-23 14:11
Dude. AI is just a statistics machine that you lie to so it will give you something it thinks, statistically, will fit what you said to it
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@jackemled@furry.engineer 2026-02-23 14:27
@papageier @reading_recluse Using a tool to neatly fold a thread upon itself millions of times to produce a sheet of cloth is not the same thing as rolling weighed dice to randomly generate what looks like writing. You are comparing apples to dog shit. I'm pretty sure the people who protested textile factories were protesting the horrible working conditions, not loss of skilled labor jobs. There was some resentment from skilled laborers for less skilled laborers who could use more advanced tools to produce more textile faster & at a higher quality, but it was overwhelmingly not that & these two groups were on the same side of the protests. I can't find much about France¹, but this is how it was in the USA & England. In English, people who refuse to adopt new tools to improve their work while at the same time making it easier & prefer to instead never learn or even worsen are called Luddites.
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@LeDiva@lediva.masto.host 2026-02-23 18:43
Clothing is useful and necessary. Autocorrect on steroids is neither.
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@zdl@gamerplus.org 2026-02-23 20:12
@papageier @reading_recluse Ah, yes. Another clank-fucker with the "inevitability" argument. Desperation is reeking from the LLMbecile camp.
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@danielmunoz@maly.io 2026-02-24 20:41
@papageier @reading_recluse Your point is bad and you should feel bad.