Post #1947343

2025-02-28 14:15 UTC

As folks are looking at other browsers (due to recent issues with Firefox), the #Ladybird browser has received some positive attention. For your awareness, Andreas Kling, the lead developer of Ladybird, has engaged in transphobia and enforcing misogynistic language in documentation in SerenityOS. SerenityOS is his previous "BDFL" project. I've also heard hints of other issues but I haven't found receipts for those so I'm leaving them alone. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecomment-830793992 https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/8046#issuecomment-860350155

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@EveHasWords@toot.cat 2025-02-28 14:36

If you haven't heard about the Firefox debacle, there are two main stories going on right now: The TOS prohibits accessing adult content through their browserThey updated their TOS and Privacy Policy to give themselves permission to sell your browsing data. They say that's not what they meant, etc. etc. but it's shady. This isn't an advice post. I have 13 browsers across three OSes (not counting mobile OSes). If you're not on Linux, Waterfox is a drop-in replacement for Firefox. If you are on Linux, it's a little harder to install Waterfox than, say, Firefox in my opinion.

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@WolvericCatkin@tech.lgbt 2025-03-02 21:15

@EveHasWords@toot.cat "Those damn Mastoqueers!" :neocat_googly_woozy:

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@gilgwath@social.tchncs.de 2025-03-02 23:02

@EveHasWords@toot.cat Don't we all love the "keep your politics out of my project" brigade 🙄

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@ic5146@meow.social 2025-03-03 00:06

@EveHasWords@toot.cat looking at Ladybird specifically, in their CONTRIBUTING.md file, they do mention using they/them https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#issue-policy Use gender-neutral pronouns, except when referring to a specific person. which seems like a step in the right direction?

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@auralluring@gamedev.lgbt 2025-03-03 08:58

@EveHasWords@toot.cat oof that's unfortunate. what does it take to have a browser that isn't trying to make money off of me or made by people who hate me :neofox_angry:

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@avghelper@fosstodon.org 2025-03-03 09:27

@EveHasWords@toot.cat RE: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/24647#issuecomment-2203925118 "We have had the long-standing rule in our project that we do not concern ourselves with controversial topics as to not alienate anyone who'd like to join in the project." Weird to think how language that explicitly *includes* non-male subjects could be construed as "alienating" to anyone, except perhaps people who feel threatened by the idea of non-male people using the project..?

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@jbowen@mast.hpc.social 2026-05-04 01:24

@EveHasWords@toot.cat I was really excited about an independent browser engine rather than just a Chrome or Firefox fork and it was really disheartening to find out what kind of people were running it.

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