Post #1890204
2026-04-25 09:25 UTC
@klausman what bothers me are people that expect 10+ or 15+ year old hardware to continue to work when jumping from one longterm kernel to the next without doing a dime to help with that in return for what they get for free.
Because that shows that the #Linux #kernel community, or maybe the whole FLOSS ecosystem, is doing a bad job at communicating that developers and testers need to invest at least time and maybe money to ensure things continue to work.
Which is why at some point things, at least for the #LinuxKernel with its "no regressions" policy, boil down to: "Unless somebody tests regularly (e.g., at least each new mainline version, better each new -rc1), things you care about might get broken and/or removed before it becomes hard or impossible to fix that".
If a hardware is very widespread, there is a decent chance that somebody else will do that testing[1]; but over time you might need to become that "somebody" to prevent a unhappy outcome for yourself and others.
[1] but hardware is tricky and has many warts that show up only in special environments. Maybe yours is one of those, so you might want to help with testing nevertheless. Which is a good way to give back to FLOSS.
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@klausman@mas.to 2026-04-25 10:16
@kernellogger What bothers me is not "pls provide free support forever!", but rather visibility. Even if you constrain it to "people who make money running Linux on 15yo hardware they inherited", I don't think it's very reasonable to assume they subscribe to the firehose that is LKML. Running every .0 I can see in such a context, but I fear even then it's quite an uphill battle to at that point convince the kernel devs to undo a driver removal. 1/2