Turns out I have been updating wrong all this time! š¤¦š¼
2026-05-01 16:29 UTC
Replies (15)
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@chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2026-05-01 16:53
Yeah, apt is an unwieldy piece of shit.
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@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2026-05-01 16:58
Uhm, you dont update the host OS??
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@BrightCandle@lemmy.world 2026-05-01 17:04
apt dist-upgrade is a necessary change to your process in place of just upgrade.
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@hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2026-05-01 17:04
Shouldnāt the upgrade also update the bootloaderās default entry to a new kernel? The way Iāve been doing it was apt update && apt dist-upgrade as well. And then reboot once every 1 to 2 years if I feel like it or thereās all these news articles about a severe bug in the kernel.
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@actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2026-05-01 17:42
Thanks for sharing this. Iām very confident with Linux, but I hadnāt thought about this! Your blog post was concise, too. I hate scrolling forever before finding the solution.
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@ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 2026-05-01 23:53
When a kernel update requires a change in dependencies, something Proxmox kernels do frequently, apt just quietly ākeeps backā the package. It doesnāt fail, it doesnāt break the system, and it doesnāt trigger a rollback. It just waits for me to notice. This should save a click for hopefully everyone. Yes obviously, if you do not update the packages then they do not get updated. If you do not read the output of a command then you will not notuce that.
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@mech@feddit.org 2026-05-02 02:10
Iāve been running Debian since 2007 and never understood the point of apt upgrade . When I update, I want the updated version for everything on my system. I donāt want to arbitrarily hold back packages just because a dependency changed. Iāll decide for myself if thatās an issue in my deployment. And Debian is generally very good at keeping everything running exactly the same way between releases. I pin the release by name (not āstableā) and then dist-upgrade always.
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@alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2026-05-02 02:11
Yay!
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@otter@lemmy.ca 2026-05-02 02:42
I cross posted this to !selfhosted@lemmy.world, I hope that was ok! I figured it would be good to spread the knowledge
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@SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-02 05:29
Would apt-get images of apt have saved you?
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@immobile7801@piefed.social 2026-05-02 15:04
I had a similar experience with this vulnerability. I had no idea another command was required to update the kernel. Kind of odd if you ask me, but iām sure they did it so youāre forced to realize youāre updating the kernel.
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@fratermus@piefed.social 2026-05-02 15:04
apt just quietly ākeeps backā the package. It doesnāt fail, it doesnāt break the system, and it doesnāt trigger a rollback. It just waits for me to notice. Since I wasnāt looking at the list of upgradable packages Depends on what quietly means. To me it means āwith no indicationā. Any written warning is quiet, I guess, if one is not reading it.
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@faith@lemmy.ml 2026-05-03 16:23
pacman -Syu goes brrr
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@Akrenion@slrpnk.net 2026-05-03 16:35
Thereās no point in digital hoarding; it just clutters the boot partition and makes future updates messier. I feel personally attacked.
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@racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 2026-05-02 01:59
This is specific to Debian and Ubuntu so why not being more specific in the title?