Post #1844292
2026-05-01 12:24 UTC
Replies (7)
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@coriza@lemmy.world 2026-05-01 13:00
If it is the same process I saw years ago they extract something from vegetables that is what gives blood its color and taste, and that is the the sauce that make it taste like meat, and that process, I guess, is expensive at least in part because plants have very little of this compound.
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@mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2026-05-01 13:37
what are you on about? don’t you know it’s far cheaper to grow a bunch of plants and then feed it to an animal for a long period of time while that animal grows and then harvest that animal for a small portion of the calories it consumed?
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@KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 2026-05-01 14:21
I mean you are right but you need to also take a new account that chemistry and manufacturing that goes into a lot of these products It’s absolutely not equal but if they’re also not just harvesting plants as well. I say this not to say you’re incorrect but just to be a more complete picture so it’s unassailable
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@PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 2026-05-01 16:20
I can chime in here (I work in plant based meat). It should be but it’s not. Why… Lots of reasons. But basicly it’s split between animal based meat is artificially cheap and plant based meat costs a lot to make. A lot of the costs (for the good brands) are in the flavorings.
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@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2026-05-01 20:28
Meat and dairy are heavily subsidised
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@Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-01 18:19
Just of the top of my head here are some possible ideas to explain why not: - Meat subsidies - Meat substitutes require more processing and additional ingredients - Meat sells a lot more than meat substitutes hence the whole chain benefits more from economies of scale - Animals raised for meat can extract nutrition from plants and parts of plants which humans cannot (for example cattle can actually break up the fiber in food and extract nutrition from it, which humans cannot), plus they can eat plants which are far more hardy than most plants grown for human consumption. Some will also eat other animals which humans do not, such as insects. I doubt it's just one of those things that is responsible and suspect it's a mix of those and maybe more.
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@ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2026-05-01 21:49
I mean beyond meat production process is famously industrial and complex; there’s even South Park episode on it where Cartman agrees to eat it because it’s the same unhealthy factory made slop that he’s used to. Now, for the beyond meat oil use. They apparently dropped refined coconut and canola oil in favour of avocado oil. And oh boy, avocado oil production is almost as bad as if Nestle owned all of it, but at least it should be healthier than coconut/canola mix, right? And then most avocado oil is fraudulent soybean/sunflower/other mixes. And then there’s also avocado oil deforestation/water use etc. My points are: Beyond Meat is slop; let’s not switch processed cold cuts for a sludge. you’re better off (health-wise and climate wise) making different bean patties (chop 'em, freeze 'em, shape 'em, cook 'em) and lowering your red meat intake than switching to beyond meat.