Few places nowadays is it legal to lay around & do whatever you want outdoors, usually getting cited for loitering or something. Thank goodness for beaches, we're mostly free here.
2026-04-27 22:41 UTC
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@remon@ani.social 2026-04-28 07:41
> Few places nowadays is it legal to lay around & do whatever you want outdoors, usually getting cited for loitering or something. What kind of shitty place are you living in?
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@Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2026-04-27 22:54
I disagree with the initial claim. I can go sit just about anywhere without concern of being cited for loitering. Not sure where you get this idea from.
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@vogi@piefed.social 2026-04-28 15:38
TIL that "loitering" does not mean leaving garbage in public spaces. Ive heard the term but never expected it to mean standing around idle, this is so stupid. EDIT: nvm i was thinking about “**littering**”. english is hard.
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@Iconoclast@feddit.uk 2026-04-28 20:41
In Finland we have "Everyman's Right" which is the right to access nature on private land without needing the owner's permission. You can walk, hike, cycle, swim, pick berries/mushrooms, and camp temporarily, as long as you stay away from homes, gardens, and cultivated fields. Making a fire is however not allowed without permission.
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@SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-04-28 06:36
In the UK all farmland is fenced off, with occasional walking paths available. I used to think the Ridgeway was great because there was about 50 miles of trails one could walk on or ride a bike, and in summer motorbikes and 4x4s were allowed too. It blew my mind when I moved to Spain and I worked out I could get pretty much anywhere off road whenever I felt like it. For novelty I once rode my little motorbike from my house to the supermarket, with only about 50m on paved roads. It was very liberating. But unfortunately some of the yoghurt I bought got squashed by the jostling on the way home, and my bag smelled of bad milk for a couple months even after I'd washed it :-/
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@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-28 15:55
Loitering is illegal in the US because public spaces are free. Why are you just sitting in a public space for free when you could be sitting in a cafe or restaurant and contributing to the economy? Oh you don't have that money? Well then you're worthless to society and just shouldn't exist, obviously.
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@SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 17:39
“Loitering” aka “standing while young”
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@pedz@lemmy.ca 2026-04-28 04:25
In Canada, a very old arrangement dating from the creation of the country, says that navigable water is a federal matter. Whether it's on the side of the ocean, a big lake, or a river, the water and anything below high tide is Crown "land", and public. There are obviously exceptions and access by land can be controlled but not by water. At least not the beach itself. It leads to weird situations, like a provincial park that can't stop boaters from [using remote parts of "their" beach](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/ccea69da-8576-4458-89b2-cccab27a529c.jpeg). Or another where [boats band together between some islands, and party and jetboat among kayaks and SUP.](https://mobile-img.lpcdn.ca/lpca/924x/r51da/d271e58f-b8d7-11ea-b33c-02fe89184577.jpg) But this also prevents owners of big houses around lakes to claim a part of that lake, or the foreshore. We don't have the right to roam in general here, with some exceptions for Crown lands, and it happens that bodies of water and rivers is Crown land. Anyway, that's how I understand this.
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@SillyDude@lemmy.zip 2026-04-28 03:19
Blm land? National forest? Can lay around for 14 days straight.
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@sircac@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 16:43
Except in Italy, nearly the totality of the coast is privately handled and you must pay to access it...
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@cattywampas@lemmy.world 2026-04-28 00:25
Shoutout to Daniel Burnham and Montgomery Ward for keeping Chicago's lakefront free and open for the people.
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@daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-29 20:00
Loitering...I don't even think that word has a translation in my language. You made up a term and turn it into a crime?
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@umbrella@lemmy.ml 2026-04-29 21:08
most places aren't illegal for you to simply stand around in. you are probably thinking of the "land of the free"
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@Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2026-04-28 14:50
What ?
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@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-28 17:15
This is a big city problem. In smaller cities you typically have very few places you can't loiter.
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@Fafa@lemmy.world 2026-04-29 10:21
Free land can be bought. Bought land can't be free.
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@DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2026-04-28 00:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nku7kdol5GY
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@Drusas@fedia.io 2026-04-28 00:22
They don't even have to be privatized. Some municipalities in the US require a "beach tag". I lived on a barrier island growing up, and we had to buy ours every year, or go to the beach two towns over where it was free (...except where it was privatized).
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@nbsp@programming.dev 2026-04-28 01:44
looking at you greece ಠ_ಠ but seriously.. it's hard to eek out an existence in sydney... everything is so fucking expensive. but peddle to the beach and read a book, it's free and the best thing in town.
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@Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2026-04-28 00:58
Not in California
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@SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-29 11:09
> personal affront as opposed to personal beach front
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@SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-04-28 13:52
Aye, it's a sexy accent alright (I don't have a Scottish accent, lol)