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Post #1826516

2026-04-24 22:02 UTC

One of my haunts when I lived in San Francisco was The Gangway - a small dive bar in the Tenderloin where a boat's hull hung over the bar, and also one of the oldest queer bars in the city. There were some ancient regulars there, each with a million tales that could capture your attention all day long. One day, one of them was telling me (paraphasing here), "back before 'born this way' caught on, we were fucking everybody... tons of guys who never would've identified as gay, and who were mostly into women, were still down to fool around. Once 'born this way' spread, the scene dried up. Guys suddenly stopped having sex with us because doing so would mean that they were immutably gay, and they just weren't." What was once a world of fluidity hiding within a culture of intolerance had been binarized. Queerness was simultaneously naturalized and, through its positionality, maintained as subordinate, less natural. 2/6

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  • @lina@neuromatch.social 2026-04-24 22:02

    I know so many women who don't identify as lesbian, or even as bi/pan, but who have had sexual experiences and romantic relationships with other women. I also know many women who, especially in recent years, have made similar statements to the one in the quoted post above. I wonder how many women who have accepted virtual celibacy would see themselves as still having opportunities for pursuing sexual or romantic encounters after eschewing men, were it not for narratives of sexuality being immutable. 3/6

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