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Post #1648874

2025-11-02 05:34 UTC

@ElenLeFoll To all #hci people out there - should we not try to create something similar to - maybe slowly but hopefully steadily - get away from #acm and their capitalist version of open access that excludes institutions who are not willing or able to pay their excessive publication fees? @floe @flowdie @jbigham @harvardhci @hci@princeton.edu @cmuhcii @hcigroup @jovermeulen

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  • @floe@hci.social 2025-11-02 08:40

    @abulling @ElenLeFoll @flowdie @jbigham @harvardhci @cmuhcii @hcigroup @jovermeulen 100% agreed - this is exactly why @jovi exists! (which is also diamond OA, and focuses on the HCI/VIS community) Coincidentally, we're looking for additional ACs and steering committee members, so I sense an opportunity 😉 https://www.journalovi.org/

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  • @odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange 2025-11-02 08:47

    @abulling @ElenLeFoll @floe @flowdie @jbigham @harvardhci @cmuhcii @hcigroup @jovermeulen easier said than done. The issue is always that such venues are only usable by senior academics; ECRs are reliant on prestigious, existing venues to have a chance at an academic job (if that is their thing). The first thing that needs to happen is changing tenure criteria to heavily favour such venues. Otherwise such endeavours are doomed to fail. Unfortunately, these ideas have been out there for at least a decade (or longer, that's just the time I've followed), but nobody does anything. I've mostly given up on this issue after hearing a decade of "oh yes I support that" combined with record breaking lethargy from senior academics.

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  • @jbigham@hci.social 2025-11-03 15:24

    @abulling @ElenLeFoll @floe @flowdie @harvardhci @cmuhcii @hcigroup @jovermeulen I think this is hard to make a priority because in practice most/all ACM publications are available openly because people share them on their websites and on sites like arxiv, maybe this isn't true in all communities, but it seems like it is. maybe better tools to find the free versions could help. and, i will defend ACM a bit in that it does do useful things, and has to fund those useful things somehow.

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