Post #1561229

2026-04-07 21:05 UTC

Is it really baffling though? This is the whole "Big Fedi" approach that Evan and others advocate. In The (annotated) case for "Big Fedi I used italics to highlight what's implied but usually left unsaid "Everyone on the planet should have an account on the fediverse (even Nazis, racists, transphobes, white supremacists, hate groups who target people of color, LGBTQIA2S+ people, and other marginalized communities). It will make the internet better and the world better (if Nazis et al are on the fediverse, as opposed to trying to keep them off) Under Eugen, Mastodon tended to be on the "Big Fedi" side -- seeing Threads' decision to adopt ActivityPub as a huge victory for the cause, opposing opt-in federation as contrary to Mastodon's mission, etc. So I see this more as a longstanding tension in fedi that's just manifesting in a different way. @jens @stefanie @haubles

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@stefanie@social.anoxinon.de 2026-04-07 21:10

@jdp23 @jens @haubles Well, if those people come in here in numbers, a lot of other people will leave in numbers. So it is really the question: Would you rather have queerfolk, or TERFs? Would you rather have Nazis, or marginalized people? It's an effect as old as time. You let the haters in, and the decent people will inevitably leave. I already lost many friends, even some family contacts by deleting my accounts on FB/X. If I have to delete the fediverse to escape TERFs, so be it.

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@stefanie@social.anoxinon.de 2026-04-07 21:29

@jdp23 @jens @haubles I'd like to add one more question: Given that there is no ad revenue and no monetization here, and servers and bandwidth costs money, what exactly is the upside in large numbers? Maybe I'm just blind or stupid, but I really don't get it. Who benefits from growth at all costs?

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@fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social 2026-04-08 12:19

@jdp23 @jens @stefanie @haubles I feel like largely we are all realizing that social media (web 2) was a huge mistake. We were never supposed to have this much access to each other. We are all generally cunts, and we can't deal with this psychologically. Fedi is the methadone to the heroin of corpo social media.

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