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Post #1396234

2026-03-21 15:50 UTC

@einsiedlerspiel you do realise that literally nobody is forcing you to run this software, right?

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  • @einsiedlerspiel@todon.nl 2026-03-21 16:04

    @benjamineskola a) we're talking about systemd and related projects that are infrastructure for basically every non microsoft/apple desktop I could recommend to newbs. b) Again the current iteration is almost minuscule, but it's the general trend towards locked down devices. The impetus of these laws is a push in the direction of the situation of mobile devices at which point you might as well say 'noone forces you to use a computer' (Also the mobile space already provides the model for how the "noone forces you" always has a 'yet' implied. Evenn without laws there is software that I *need* to access existentially important services which I could not use without a 'trusted' device; see banking software, app-only ticketing etc.). But we don't need to continue this. All I'm saying is this no big deal attitude will backfire and we absolutely need software projects asserting their opposition. (And I'm not willing to cede this field to fucking lunduke). No I don't expect everyone to take the bullet, but I expect the acknowledgement that there is indeed a choice.

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  • @ClickyMcTicker@hachyderm.io 2026-03-21 20:34

    @benjamineskola @einsiedlerspiel You do realize that literally nobody forced you to respond to someone like that, right? Nor did anyone force you to use any operating system other than the one you wrote single-handedly from scratch. Nobody forces you to drive on public roads or use a cell phone. There’s a lot of things nobody forces you to do that you choose to do anyways, because we live lives and exist in a society. FOSS software exists across borders. I’m not going to make the claim that the modern American Republican Party is a Nazi party, but “just follow the law” equates to “just following orders” and had the business community followed one man’s orders in the 1930s we may not have certain groups of people to defend the rights of today. If the majority of the FOSS stakeholders decide that age verification should not move forward for ethical reasons, the real answer is to cut California off. Developers in that jurisdiction will have to find a way to comply with the law should they stick with the wider community’s tools, but it’s ultimately *their* responsibility to follow *their* laws.

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