Post #1354112
2026-04-11 16:43 UTC
Replies (4)
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@glyph@mastodon.social 2026-04-11 18:15
@mitsuhiko many people who participate in interventions for cocaine addicts are not, themselves, presently addicted to cocaine. many have never even tried it!
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@pfmoore@mastodon.social 2026-04-11 19:36
@mitsuhiko How can "actually trying" AI make any difference to a person's position on whether basing the technology on extreme resource consumption and ignoring copyright is acceptable? My deep discomfort over these matters won't be altered by using AI tools - does that mean I'm somehow unable to have a "measured position", whatever that might mean?
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@davidism@mas.to 2026-04-12 12:51
@mitsuhiko Pallets gets constant LLM junk issues, PRs, reviews, and security reports. I do not have to use it to have an extremely well informed opinion that its existence and use is a net negative to my projects. The number of people using it "right" (based on my ongoing experiences with using it I still think this is shaky) are a rounding error compared to the number using it poorly, and that won't change. Sure people made junk before, but more slowly, obviously, and less resource intensively
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@pythonbynight@hachyderm.io 2026-04-12 18:50
@mitsuhiko I can appreciate certain aspects of this writeup, particularly with the attempt to disambiguate certain aspects of the discussion. Talking about LLM-based workflows in terms of their effects, and how usage of those workflows might be used productively from a "technical" point of view is indeed different than talking about ... well, all the other stuff. Perhaps my hang up is posturing this as the "center" position. 1/2