Post #1302749
2026-03-27 16:00 UTC
> it lacks childhood dependency and attachments.
Isn’t general intelligence, or more broadly “consciousness,” a prerequisite to that? How would you make an unconscious machine more conscious merely by making mock scenarios that conscious beings necessarily experience?
> it struggles to overcome repeated pain and suffering
That’s getting into phenomenology — why is pain an experience of suffering at all? How would you give it pain and suffering without having already made it AGI? We’re still missing the ` -> AGI` step.
> it lacks regular eating and restroom breaks
The necessity of which is emergent from our culture and biology, as conscious social beings. We’re still missing a vital step.
> it struggles to accept loss in everyday situations
What is “loss” and “everyday situations” if not just a way we choose to see the world, again as conscious beings.
> it lacks the concept of our inevitable death
How do you give it a “concept” at all?
> these nagging memories and concepts
The AI in its current form has the “memory” in some form, but perhaps not the “nagging.” What should do the “nagging” and what should be the target of the “nagging?” How do you conceptually separate the “memory” and the “nagging” from the “being” that you’re trying to create? Is it all part of the same being, or does it initialize the being?
We’re a long way away from AGI, IMO. The exciting thing to me, though, is I don’t think it’s possible to develop AGI without first understanding what makes N(atural)GI. Depending how far away AGI is, we could be on the cusp of some deeply psychologically revealing shit.
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@sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-27 23:09
Completely agree with all of this. Especially the last part. We don't even understand our brains, our own minds, we still can't fully agree on what consciousness or sentience... even... are. We're certainly making progress on those fronts... but we are a very, very far distance from the finish line. That finish line would be like... we solved Psychology, we solved Neuroscience, we have a Grand Unified Theory of Mind, etc.