Post #128566
2026-01-13 06:59 UTC
Replies (18)
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@FaceDeer@fedia.io 2026-01-13 07:46
Doesn't work, but I guess if it makes people feel better I suppose they can waste their resources doing this. Modern LLMs aren't trained on just whatever raw data can be scraped off the web any more. They're trained with synthetic data that's prepared by other LLMs and carefully crafted and curated. Folks are still thinking ChatGPT 3 is state of the art here.
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@Lembot_0006@programming.dev 2026-01-13 07:08
Idiots: This new technology is still quite ineffective. Let’s sabotage it’s improvement! Imbeciles: Yeah!
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@Lembot_0006@programming.dev 2026-01-13 07:43
You should select something: whether you like the current copyright system or not. You can’t do both.
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@chunes@lemmy.world 2026-01-13 07:48
Small quantities of poisoned training data can significantly damage a language model. Source: trust me bro. Nightshade tried the same thing and it never worked.
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@Disillusionist@piefed.world 2026-01-13 08:13
“Public” is a tricky term. At this point everything is being treated as public by LLM developers. Maybe not you specifically, but a lot of people aren’t happy with how their data is being used to train AI.
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@hector@lemmy.today 2026-01-13 08:50
It would not be fair to prevent ai from violating every single copyright on the earth? That is a novel take. Especially as most do not use ai but companies are trying to force them to, to ultimately replace half the workforce and send the economy into a doom spiral.
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@vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2026-01-13 09:18
If, suppose, I were optimistic over this technology, but pessimistic over its current stage of development, I’d expect this to be a cure. It’s a problem they’ll have to solve. A test they’ll have to pass. If somewhere inside those things someone makes a mechanism building a graph of syllogisms, no kind of poisoned input data will be able to hurt them. So - this is a good thing, but when people say it’s a rebellion, it’s not.
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@zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-13 12:00
This is just stupid^20
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@termaxima@slrpnk.net 2026-01-13 12:11
Been thinking about making one of these too, especially since I have a catchy name : asbestos
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@FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2026-01-13 17:14
Person: Says a thing Person 2, who disagrees with the thing: YOU’RE A BOOTLICKER! Super convincing. I’m sure you’re going to win people over to your position if you scream loud enough.
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@eru@mouse.chitanda.moe 2026-01-13 18:52
i would imagine companies would just filter it out need some more clever way of hiding it or allow it to be self hosted so that it has various urls
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@vane@lemmy.world 2026-01-14 14:58
I have around 10-20GB github / gitlab mirror. I am constantly under attack from crawlers from top US technology corporations and LLM startups. Whenever I ban one IP range they switch to other - I don’t know if those fuckers have tickets in their systems to do it manually or they just deploy this shit all over the planet. From what I observe during attacks that I mitigate the best way to poison them is to just create gitea instance with poisoned code repository and couple hundred revisions. It’s because what they are most interested in is html representation of diff between two git revisions.
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@Blackmist@feddit.uk 2026-01-14 15:11
With the amount of AI generated horseshit out there already, they’ve already pissed in the well.
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@nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-01-14 16:10
I don’t think this is a good idea. The pollution spreads. this would corrupt the collective knowledge of humanity a little faster than the AI already is doing.
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@FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2026-01-14 17:40
Who said anything about plagiarism and child porn? I was talking about the people who have no ability to actually state or defend a position and seem to believe that insults and hot takes are some kind of substitution. Replying to a person with insults and nothing else is toxic and does nothing except make you look irrational and ignorant. As is inventing strawman positions rather than responding to a person’s point. This is true no matter who are are or what position that you’re taking on any subject.
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@FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2026-01-14 18:46
>As is inventing strawman positions rather than responding to a person’s point. Oh lol, this guy is a Moderator. From the rules of your own Reddit: Don’t be an asshole. If you’re reading a comment you’re about to make and think “Hmm… this sounds like the kind of comment an asshole would make” then do not make that comment. Yes, even if the other person “started it”. That really sounds hypocritical given your responses.
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@vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-01-15 06:20
what if it’s poinsoned data, and i instruct you not to crawl it, but you do it anyway. Whose fault is it then?
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@vane@lemmy.world 2026-01-15 14:06
To be honest bandwidth isn’t a problem because it’s text files. The problem is to optimize network stack for multiple connections because they’re hitting from whole subnets without any delay so literally ddos and cache those html files because at some point CPU becomes bottleneck.