2023-09-15 08:57 UTC
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@NicoleCRust@neuromatch.social 2023-09-15 12:54
@yoginho@spore.social Thank you for this. I really appreciate your post, and the reminder of what epistemic humility is and is not (for all of us). (I'm also excited to stumble upon this: http://www.johannesjaeger.eu/philosophy.html Thanks for making that available!)
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@beneuroscience@neuromatch.social 2023-09-17 06:34
@yoginho@spore.social I appreciate your blog post as it provides context to why you're so frustrated. I'm fine with calling people out, but the manner in which you did it I take issue with. Shouting at someone in repeated posts claiming their worldview is dangerous and delusional and without merit, even if you're correct (!), is not a fruitful way to start a conversation. It's human behavior to avoid such an attack. And even as a passive observer it's unpleasant. So I'm calling you out ;) And to be sure, I wouldn't care if you were a troll or kook but your ideas are fascinating and I want people to pay attention. I listened to you on Brain Inspired (after this exchange) and it was one of my favorite episodes of the 50 or so I've listened to. I loved in particular the part about limitations of dynamical systems thinking for brains/organisms, and the idea of organismal closure. I'm very sympathetic to your critique of computationalism, too, particularly because functions the brain carries out are ill defined and much of its function is almost surely not algorithmic, in my opinion. In the podcast, however, you acknowledge the utility of the computational approach for exploring many things the brain does and appreciate that we can (and maybe already have) achieve great insights with that framework. The problem is that some proponents started to confuse the map for the territory, as it were. Much more even handed than this exchange with Blake, and much more likely to get people to listen and discuss! @NicoleCRust@neuromatch.social