@nolan@toot.cafe The strongest steelman position I can make for the use of LLMs is that a senior developer can use them for fast feedback and maybe brainstorming. (As long as they're happy to accept a list of serious downsides and externalities.) When I see junior devs use them, the LLMs lead the dev down the garden path, creating more and more complicated workarounds where a senior dev would back up and take a fundamentally different approach. And when I see senior devs treat them as a team of junior devs that can independently produce a body of work, well... that's not a good way to work with actual junior devs! You have to carefully review their work, do mentoring, etc. There are somewhat analogous things you can do with agents but I don't have the sense that this is what people are really doing.