2025-08-07 21:36 UTC
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@ahltorp@mastodon.nu 2025-08-07 22:00
@kolya@social.cologne @spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon.ie But if we extend “train AI” to just all techbro behaviour, we have things that are actually taking physical things away, like scooter companies just unilaterally annexing public street space by placing scooters there. Even if we stay in the “train AI” space, “AI” crawlers are now causing real harm to web server operators by uncontrollably bombarding them with queries.
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@frox@tooting.ch 2025-08-08 05:49
@kolya@social.cologne @spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon.ie there is one key difference. The private use is usually for personal consumption, not for profit and not to create any derivative works. The "AI" scraping is definitely for profit, intended to be a way to avoid paying creators for their work by reproducing it for free and then selling it to as many people as possible
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@Soulshine@mastodon.social 2025-08-10 08:24
@kolya@social.cologne @spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon.ie Eh. Unlike piracy, AI does actually rapidly take the art away by deleting artists' jobs plus AI resells other people's art which is not how napster worked. So while we all realize that digital copying does not delete the original, we should not apply stricter rules to our defense against fascist big tech than big tech itself keeps applying to us. The picture is not accurate but it's so much closer to accurate than the original campaign.
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@spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon.ie 2025-08-10 10:20
@kolya@social.cologne So if I copy all the files from your hard drive without your permission, that's fine because it's not taking anything physical away? If a digital copy is not theft why did OpenAI accuse DeepSeek of stealing their intellectual property? https://futurism.com/openai-deepseek-permission-ai-stealing