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2026-09-20 22:09 UTC

@jensorensen@mastodon.social "barbarism" was, and argubly is, a slang and slur term invented by the romans to refer to a people of northern africa (which, as a reminder, they were colonizing). In a similar sense to how north american colonizers insisted that the indigenous american peoples were- are, depending who you ask- "savages". Do you believe either of those things to be true? Then you believe in racial heirarachy. Do you not? Then you have zero evidence for "traditional heirarchy". "Savage" societies were created by heirarchies every bit as 'modern' as the current ones with the only exception being they hadn't developed full-scale capitalism yet. But rome itself- who invented the term you insist on using- was *extremely close to capitalism*, so close that Jesus himself had ending the land and slave ownership system that was approaching it as one of his main goals. (assuming you believe what little information we have, of course) They even had advertisements for products in places like the colloseum! The origin of "savagry" from the "enlightenment" era of europe, the entire "ages" idea, likewise, was in fact created by europeans refusing to listen to the indigenous peoples they were colonizing. In fact, the first guy to come up with it did so as a *theory* and he didnt even intend it to be taken as a factual theory! Hence, yes, it would be ridiculous to suggest they move backwards. Which is why they didn't. They suggested they refine what they and people like them had been doing for 5-6 millenia- forced colonization-style heirarchy. They thought their only choices were their artificially invented "savagry" or some form of unchecked heirarchy. And by posting this, you are spreading that lie. You are helping them.

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  • @lins_c@kolektiva.social 2026-09-20 22:23

    @jensorensen@mastodon.social I highly recommend this video by an indigenous creator, which has some book suggestions at the end; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFvxkvpi2w And I have, and have heard of, criticisms of it. Particularly the fact it appears to not have directly cited indigenous consults and sensitivity readers in the book. Though I can't tell to what degree that has caused problems, myself. But presently a source for some of my other points is "The Dawn of Exerything, A New History of Humanity" by David Graeber and David Wengrow

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