@caravan @4CPcomics well thanks for saying this bc it made me realize that I converted a *great* '81 tape from shn to flac but never circulated that version, so I will soon - id 14195 is the shn version, 7.10.81 St. Paul, a classic '81 good tape from a room that didn't always sound very nice. There's a pull from the Boston Garden 5.12 that's another clean tape pulled from an echo chamber...maybe the 700s drums > space > UJB > PITB > China Doll > PITB > UJB is pretty heady