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2026-09-22 13:00 UTC

@bontchev@infosec.exchange “Open source crap”? Software for “nerds”? Guess you are so wedded to Windows that you’ve fallen into the “proprietary installers are sure to be secure” vibe… please try to back down from treating everyone who is not you or your colleagues as “idiots,” or the idea that everyone needs to be a technical expert and it’s always their fault if the software isn’t a beacon of clarity. Plenty of mainstream tools and even official Microsoft hotfixes involve tweaks or state changes that are presented as script one-liners to download or to copy-paste. Even many experts aren’t always expert enough to complete tasks without snippets or even fully-formed code that’s churned out by a machine and they are expected to trust - you yourself admit to using AI to generate Python code to sidestep your own deficiencies in the language, and if you couldn’t write the code yourself it is very unlikely you could properly review it and objectively test it. We all have shortcomings that we rely on websites, prompts, or popups to advise us how to get past. No need to be pompous about users who rely on a different set of crutches to the ones you use…

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  • @bontchev@infosec.exchange 2026-09-22 13:45

    @pducklin@infosec.exchange I said that, contrary to your claim, mainstream products use installers and not the curl | bash idiocy. You have yet to prove me wrong. Knowing basic stuff about the computer, like what the Run dialog or the Terminal do, is basic computer literacy; it doesn't make one a "technical expert". I use Claude as a productivity boost. Not because I couldn't write the same code but because doing so would take me years instead of a couple of months. And I still verify carefully what it has generated. I know the language quite well, thank you, or I wouldn't program in that language with or without Claud's help. My position is unchanged - the only ones who fall for ClickFix are computer-illiterate idiots. If you want to place blame elsewhere, place it on the other kind of idiots who keep coming up with more and more convoluted forms of CAPTCHAs, so that the average user becomes completely confused about what is legitimate and what is not.

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