@njion Back around 2016 I was at an optometrist choosing frames for my glasses. I found some small rectangular frames I liked. The clerk told me the frames I had chosen were for women and recommended a pair she said were for men and I really didn't have the energy to have the gendered objects fight with her at the time so I went along with it and bought the ones she was recommending Got home and realized these "men's" frames were covered in floral patterns lol I mean men can rock flowers but if I were trying to enforce gendered norms on objects, swapping the angular plain pewter for the rounded floral engravings wouldn't have been the move Still would have preferred the angular little frames I choose originally but I was quite happy to wear the floral frames and laugh about the failed attempt to enforce gender