@fbarton Yes, absolutely! The symptoms, and that's it. When my father had problems the GP and even cardiologist told him he should exercise more. But he could not. Not at all. He was active, and then no longer could do a thing. One young cardiologist, thinking outside the box, said "Could it be amyloidosis?" And that, it was. Very advanced. He died within a few months, and it was a miserable death, very painful. Very traumatising. @NineStonesClose @scalzi