Post #924879
2026-01-28 10:01 UTC
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@pre@boing.world 2026-01-30 15:32
Oh. Its proprietary!? https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/ Why has everyone been talking about Vivaldi being a sensible replacement for Firefox when it's not even open source and you can't install it on Arch? 😬 These chrome "Profiles" aren't nearly as useful as Firefox's Containers either. Can't segregate a tab to it's own cookie-jar at all. Only entire windows full of tabs. The annoying side-panel can be hidden but keeps coming back whenever you view the bookmarks or the notes or the ReadList or todo or Translate dialogs etc. Because they are part of that side panel I guess. The mail app seems okay, but it's making up it's own contacts based on mail in the imap boxes instead of taking them from my nextcloud. Which means I'd not use it. Just continue with Mutt. Probably would just continue with mutt either way really. Having the calendar built in is quite nice I guess. That does sync with the nextcloud calendar so would be useable. Like Firefox, the "Send Tab To Device" function on Android relies on the notifications system, and so doesn't work when the phone is in Do Not Disturb. Which makes it annoying for sending what you're reading to the phone for bed coz the phone is automatically in No-Disturb sleep mode before bedtime for me. That's an issue with Mozilla too though. Force dark-mode works okay, but is an overall setting not a per-site setting. Could see having to turn that off and on a lot. The notes system is really pretty good. It could use a widget for the android homescreen. And indeed widgets for the calendar and readlist and todo list and other panel items. A RSS reader really should be part of the browser so that's great. Reluctant to switch from my own self hosted TTRSS now though. It seems very nice, can be made pretty, has most of the things I use addons for in Firefox built right in there and more besides. I was quite excited and really on the verge of switching to it for proper until I found it doesn't have an arch package so can't be easily installed on the steam machine, and can't even be built from source there because it turns out isn't even free software. Do I need more proprietary software in my life? Definitely usually try to avoid that. Closed source is worse than unwanted AI. 😔 So I guess sticking with Librewolf for now. Hopefully they can keep the AI agent stuff separated as Mozilla enshitify further without becoming overwhelmed. #browser #firefox #vivaldi #mozilla
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@pre@boing.world 2026-02-02 12:52
I wonder if part of the reason that Mozilla are so confused about what their actual user-base want is that all the people who want to turn off the AI bullshit are also the ones who turn off telemetry so the bulk of people with browser.ml.chat.enabled=false also have telemetry turned off so are invisible to Mozilla. 🤔
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@jmrubillon@mastodon.ie 2026-01-28 11:43
@pre@boing.world I've been using Vivaldi as my main browser for about 6 months now and it's pretty decent. On the desktop I make extensive use of its workspaces feature, it's a godsend to keep my huge open tabs list nicely organised 😊 #vivaldi #MadeInEurope
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@eliasp@mastodon.social 2026-01-28 13:35
@pre@boing.world the more people try to tell Mozilla to leave their fingers off AI, the more they insist on going all-in... 😩
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@wizardponderingorb@retro.pizza 2026-01-28 17:22
@pre@boing.world I love the part where they dunk on AI slop and how they'll fight against that and then show us some image of a red panda with opposable thumbs and upright posture instead of - oh, I don't know - a fox?!
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@lemgandi@mastodon.social 2026-04-02 17:17
@pre@boing.world So far Waterfox has been a good experience for me.