cops excluded
2026-03-29 08:15 UTC
Replies (10)
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@lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 2026-03-29 10:18
When you’re a child a lot of the content you consume has morals, lessons embedded in them, either blatant or subtle. You realise that when you got older, the lessons never stopped, only became more subtle, and who decides what to tell the mass public but the state government and others who have been fooled into being loyal to a fault. (There are also completely innocent broadcasters out there, it’s not all bad). A very subtle example is NCIS, made in the USA by a corporate entity independent of state funding, based on a real-life government organisation. They never show an Israeli as a bad person. Dislikeable, sure, but never the antagonist, never held accountable for murders on American land. This teaches that the Israeli government, and their Mossad, are faultlessly good in the fictional parallel world of NCIS, and the viewer attributes this to our reality’s version of the same organisation. Subtle conditioning. Oh and in one scene, showing a distaste for Israeli delicacies is ‘antisemitic’ and not a subjective opinion. This meme, as the creator pointed out, reinforces the idea that police are benevolent forces working for the good of the public. When abused, like they are now in (dare I say it) most countries of the world, the forces are only for the good of the bureaucrats and corporate aristocrats. The corruption level can often be determined by which demographics and state crimes get hunted disproportionately.
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@Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world 2026-03-29 11:25
I understand but can’t help but say all other need the police when they are robbed abused or … I get that with power there becomes an issue but possible investment in training of the role and realise that it’s the individual not the role of the police that is the issue. Fathers, teachers, coaches, day care, home help, can all be in position of abuse but I don’t see everyone telling me to stop those roles… Well some people would and maybe that’s the direct we are going. No roles no responsibility for anything…
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@curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2026-03-29 12:01
Police are modern. They came into existence after the United States did. Before that, people relied on the community - if one person was stolen from, the community considered it a collective responsibility to address the issue. If it was an issue between two people in the community, a trusted person would mediate. Sometimes this was someone in a leadership role, but other times it was Taylor from down the road, because they want someone who is always calm, fair, and reasonable, and both people trust Taylor. Just like there are lots of other things police currently handle that they shouldn’t, like people having a mental health crisis.
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@black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-29 13:58
This still kinda reads as saying “thank you” to the cops haha
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@curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2026-03-29 14:10
Ehhh I’d call that a foundational element and not policing as we’d consider it to be today. It was a very limited scope (known criminals, enforcing curfews, and dealing with riots). Modern policing would be more London in the 1830s as the first police force, with American policing in the 1840s and beyond, with the american roots in the slave patrols from the 1700s. Earlier models were more based on the mutual pledge system, with groups of families (tithings) have an assigned tithingman, with groups of tithings (a hundred). This became the basis of the constable.
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@theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-03-29 14:17
I mean they are workers just are also class traitors enforcing bourgeois rule.
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@Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world 2026-03-29 22:22
Police and jail replacement for community torture and public shaming. I guess one way to find out is if you could be a cop? Honestly I would find it difficult which is why I respect a person that steps into that role and trust society to support the laws in place.
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@curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2026-03-29 22:46
Police and jail replacement for community torture and public shaming. Ah, yes, police and prison! So now its state run torture and public shaming, along with the added bonuses of legalized slavery and corporate profiteering. I would really recommend you learn a bit about what’s actually going on. Life isn’t paw patrol.
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@punkisundead@slrpnk.net 2026-03-30 19:51
Teachers are also part of an oppressive system and should be treated as such
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@Deceptichum@quokk.au 2026-03-30 22:37
You must have had shitty teachers I feel sorry for you. Education where I am has a large focus on autonomy and empowering children to know their rights.