How did your country vote?
2026-03-26 12:35 UTC
Replies (40)
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@leoj@piefed.social 2026-03-26 13:01
wtf ireland, sweden, ukraine, united kingdom, canada, japan, iceland, hungary? Abstaining feels like it is just as bad as voting no.
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@Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2026-03-26 13:16
You only posted half of the title. >Declaration of the Trafficking of Enslaved Africans and Racialized Chattel Enslavement of Africans as the Gravest Crime against Humanity
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@BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 2026-03-26 16:24
Here's the map of the vote to really drive the point home. 
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@Thatoneguy@sh.itjust.works 2026-03-26 12:59
Why am I even surprised by the US being the US anymore. "Hey you know this thing thats super bad?" "Of course we've known it's bad for many years now" "Well we should officially condemn it." "Whoa whoa let's hold up and think about that for a second."
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@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2026-03-26 13:18
It's the Same Map As Always, USA + vassals Vs Rest of the World.
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@AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 2026-03-26 16:54
Cries quietly in Indigenous slaughter
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@WasteTime@hexbear.net 2026-03-26 17:06
Fuck Argentina.
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@Surp@lemmy.world 2026-03-27 11:01
Abstaining means against in my book
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@Linken@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 12:58
My disappointment in the US continues to be consistent and expected.
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@phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2026-03-26 20:20
So the US voted against so it didn't pass, yet again, I presume? Fuck veto voting
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@dessalines@lemmy.ml 2026-03-26 14:17
https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap
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@blinfabian@feddit.nl 2026-03-27 10:54
"against :3" they're using that emote in UN votes now?
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@plyth@feddit.org 2026-03-26 14:31
Part of the EU explanation: https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/un-new-york/eu-explanation-vote-%E2%80%93-un-general-assembly-action-a80l48-declaration-trafficking-enslaved-africans_en >We were prepared to support a text that emphasises the scale of the atrocity of the transatlantic slave trade, the importance of remembrance, and the need to continue combating slavery in its contemporary forms. Instead, the text before us raises a number of legal and factual concerns that we cannot overlook. :::spoiler 3 arguments >First, the use of superlatives in the context of crimes against humanity is not legally accurate, such as the use of "gravest" in the title and throughout the text, which implies a hierarchy among atrocity crimes, when no legal hierarchy between crimes against humanity exists. It risks undermining the harm suffered by all victims of these crimes and lacks legal clarity crucial for ensuring accountability. We firmly reject introducing ambiguity in this respect. >Second, the selective inclusion of lengthy, historical, and contentious references to regional jurisprudence and selective and unbalanced interpretation of historical events - such as in Preambular Paragraphs 21 and 23 - is at odds with accepted UN practice, as well as the stated universal and forward looking objective of this initiative. It risks creating divisions when unity is both necessary and achievable. The role of the General Assembly is not to substitute itself to the academic debate amongst historians. >Third, we are also concerned by certain legal references and assertions that are either inaccurate or inconsistent with international law. This includes suggestions of a retroactive application of international rules which was non-existent at the time and claims for reparations, which is incompatible with established principles of international law. The principle of non-retroactivity, a fundamental cornerstone of the international legal order, must be strictly upheld. References to claims for reparations also lack a sound legal basis. Any framework for reparatory justice must be grounded in existing multilateral instruments. :::
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@GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 2026-03-27 01:30
For! And would you look at that... Practically all of europe abstaining, color me **shocked** (¬\_¬) Also... Argentina? YUCK! Sadly not a surprise either.
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@Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 2026-03-26 13:33
I fucking hate it here. Every god damn report is just like "USA is dystopian fascist hellhole" and I wish I could do something. Then I remember my card declined for groceries this week and I get one step closer to being radicalized into political violence
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@cheat700000007@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 16:27
What does this vote achieve?
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@pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2026-03-27 09:04
So Serbia is the only European country with balls?
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@DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 2026-03-26 15:35
Wrong
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@ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-03-27 02:13
I got 3 things to say on this: If the vote was to recognize it as the worst thing humanity has done, I'd vote against. I feel like there are a couple other things that were even worse. Even only considering enslavement, out of all of history, I would have reservations against saying this was the absolute worst of it. Every country that abstained was just against it, and didn't have the balls to vote it. Yeah, the US is an asshole. They're screwing it all up across the globe and they're also why Cuba is still fucked. Eat the rich.
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@teagrrl@lemmy.ml 2026-03-27 00:46
Abstention might as well be an against vote
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@Egriaga@lemmy.ml 2026-03-26 23:53
USA I made a little poem Our president is child Making our reputation be defiled Seen as a big whiny bully While hiding his crimes obscurely
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@Pman@lemmy.org 2026-03-27 17:21
Yet again the genocide of first nations peoples/aboriginals is kind of forgotten. All crimes on a massive scale should be remembered by the international community and when one is elevated as the worst I fear that it will incentivise forgetting of the others and potential rascism clash poits.
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@yucandu@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 15:16
I don't support the "Gravest Crime against Humanity" wording in the resolution, so I have no problems with the way my country voted.
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@Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 23:40
the UK: 
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@RedNajm@hexbear.net 2026-03-27 10:04
Proudly in favor
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@plyth@feddit.org 2026-03-26 13:49
South Korea voting in favor of the resolution is surprising. They are team America and they were enslaved, but are not included in the resolution because they were not shipped to the Americas. Seeing one's own enslavement as not as grave as the African one is a statement.
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@Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2026-03-27 06:37
If you know the us votes against anyways, why abstain?
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@nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-03-26 13:33
India said yes. We were kind of enslaved by the Britishers.
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@baatliwala@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 14:01
Tangential but I swear no one talks about how insanely racist Argentina is. Just look at things that happen in footy there
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@mp3@lemmy.ca 2026-03-26 13:17
Abstention from Canada? wtf..
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@CactusEcho@piefed.social 2026-03-26 17:21
> the Gravest Crime against Humanity So now, there's layers on suffering. The ones that died on manmade famines, the ones that died on slavery (not chattel), the holocaust, the ones that got tortured by isis, etc... Didn't endure enough suffering.
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@HubertManne@piefed.social 2026-03-26 14:47
trump tried to remove any references to slavery at a dc museum. I think court has an order demanding the return but im not 100% what was removed and if anything was returned.
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@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works 2026-03-28 15:45
Please read the declaration before responding to this ragebait post
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@WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2026-03-27 04:57
I guess there is some good in Serbistan. Need to make sure it stays that way.
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@mrdown@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 15:03
Canada : Abstantion Tunisia : Yes
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@Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2026-03-27 00:51
Another victory for Democracy! USA veto, sorry, hands are tied we don't make the rules
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@Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 2026-03-26 16:09
There's normally a reason when that assortment of countries chooses to abstain (the no voters are normally just evil). In this case it's likely the use of the word "gravest". I'd say the holocaust was worse, at least in the slave trade the people were just a means to an end. The holocaust involved torture by design and aimed to erase an entire religion. Others may disagree, but there's at least room for doubt on the declaration that it's the "gravest".
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@leoj@piefed.social 2026-03-26 13:22
Yeah in a parliamentarian position I guess abstention is different from saying no, especially when the legislation has the votes. But I guess what I was trying to articulate is that it feels like they are respecting? the no votes by abstaining, IE not contradicting. This feels like a serious cop out on an issue as absurdly black and white as actual Chattel slavery. Edit: Good point though about reservations on the text, we don't know what it said, although that defense can also apply to the No's as well, which is why I shied away from it.
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@SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2026-03-26 13:21
Good insight. That is more to consider than initial thoughts.
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@mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2026-03-26 13:38
Lemmy doesn't understand three states. You're either with us or you're a literal Nazi paedophile.