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Post #761481

2026-03-24 18:42 UTC

RE: https://thecanadian.social/@MostlyHarmless/116285239183264441 49 states have 'at will employment' meaning unless you have a union, which is ~not~ 90% of us, we can be fired just for saying we're sick. (yeah, it's wrongful firing - sure sue them. Tell me how rent gets paid while paying for a lawyer?) The struggle isn't even to explain sick leave is a terrible racket, half (at least) of the US labor force doesn't even have sick leave or use it if we do!

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  • @Kalshann@mastodon.social 2026-03-24 18:50

    The US (gov & corps) have never - in 250 years - given a flying fuck about labor rights or human rights unless it's been forced by a small minority on the majority. Even the Civil Rights Movement, Suffrage and our tepid union movements have only happened because of a threat of looming violence against the status quo and the then people in power wanted to maintain that status. The real US patriotism is throwing bricks at bosses and political fucks until they are forced to be better.

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  • @Kalshann@mastodon.social 90% of us have a union? That number seems...off.

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  • @Azuaron@cyberpunk.lol 2026-03-24 19:01

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social Two... years? Two... YEARS? TWO YEARS? I have been sick and working (in America) for four fucking years, and there's a decent chance if I had a few months off I could find a proper treatment and get better. TWO YEARS! I knew we were bad off, but holy fucking shit.

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  • @Kalshann@mastodon.social What's interesting is that when companies trust their employees not to just work there for long enough to bunk off for two years and still get paid...they don't. Not working in a precarious, high-pressure environment makes your staff happier, more productive, and less eager to scam you into paying them for doing nothing. People, in general, want to work. We've seen the same with the four-day week. Productivity goes up not down! The American business model has everything backwards.

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  • @obfusk@tech.lgbt 2026-03-24 19:20

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social just fyi: - the current Dutch government wants to reduce that to 1y - people regularly go to work with covid/flu and infect others even though they could just stay home when sick - if you become disabled as an adult and don't have employment at the time (e.g. you're in college like I was when I got long covid, or self-employed) you're fucked because there's no way to get disability benefits when you don't have a job

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  • @Pinchy63@ottawa.place 2026-03-24 19:44

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social I lived in the US in the early 2000s. One day I had to install a computer in this cubicle. The guy beside me kept coughing and throwing up. Turns out he had stage four lung cancer but couldn’t afford to not work. The man would empty a bucket of blood every evening before leaving. Cruelest thing I’ve ever witnessed.

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  • @Kalshann@mastodon.social Yes but what about the shareholders!? >wrings hands anxiously<

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  • @torf@c.im 2026-03-24 22:14

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social I would say "sick day" has a bit different meaning in Europe: it is a day you can claim yourself sick without actually visiting/calling your doctor -- the latter is not a problem in principle, but is a bit more of bureaucratic burden, which doesn't worth it if you just have say a short common cold or headache. However, last years they seem to be phased out in favour of home offices.

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  • @rl_dane@polymaths.social 2026-03-24 23:57

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social > sure sue them. I wonder what percentage of employers now require ruddy #BindingArbitration clauses in their contracts now. I used to do everything to avoid those. Now they're basically completely unavoidable.

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  • @beasom@mastodon.social 2026-03-25 03:48

    @Kalshann@mastodon.social @MostlyHarmless@thecanadian.social Grew up in the US, live and work in Japan. Medical insurance is better in J, but attitude toward illness is not ideal. http://www.shindoisshin.com/blog/dont-work-when-youre-sick Usually get a pool of paid time off that you use for everything; vacation, errands that need to be done during work hours, etc. If you are at one of the very few places that does offer separate time off for illness, you have to document it with proof that you went to see a doctor and that you were advised not to return to work.

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