Post #753424

2026-03-21 17:12 UTC

Hey @kde with the recent birthdate field being introduced into systemd and the lead developer being obnoxiously stupid about it, Plasma desktop relying more on systemd feels wrong. Given the circumstances, I urge you to please reconsider systemd dependency on KDE platform and if possible, please think of alternatives. When you said X11 is getting axed from the codebase, I was ok with because Wayland has improved significantly over the years and offers more almost all the functionality from X11; systemd is different. This post is an attempt to make my case as a (happy and satisfied) KDE Plasma user for few years so please think again about getting in bed with that project. #kde #systemd #ageverification #linux

Replies (4)

@magitian@fedia.social 2026-03-21 17:20

@shanmukhateja @kde I think it's possible to set a fake date of birth? There's no way to actually verify it via documents...

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@kde@floss.social 2026-03-21 17:41

@shanmukhateja There are no hard dependencies on systemd in Plasma, nor are there plans that there be: https://floss.social/@kde/116080098289301477 So why are you tagging us?

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@MsDropbear42@infosec.space 2026-03-22 00:50

@shanmukhateja no, your statement is wrong, bordering indeed on #FUD... Plasma desktop relying more on systemd feels wrong #KDE have explicitly blogged about this false information in recent weeks. it is only the new #SDDM replacement, #PlasmaLoginManager, that needs #systemd as a dependency... NO other #Plasma pkgs depend on systemd at all. given that PLM is entirely optional, ie, users can choose not to install it, can keep using SDDM, or other login managers, the statement that was being mentioned online by peeps either from ignorance or malice, is simply incorrect . @kde

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@d_ed@floss.social 2026-03-22 09:05

@shanmukhateja @kde The alternative to userdb(in systemd) is accountservice which is also getting an optional placeholder for birthdate. So distancing ourselves from systemd isn't achieving a lot. Whether and how we populate that field on either service is left up to the desktop and no-one has yet.

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