Post #721468
2026-03-21 13:21 UTC
Replies (10)
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@karolherbst@chaos.social 2026-03-21 14:33
@Foxboron I'd be more open to the overall criticism if the arguments were more substantial than "they worked for Red Hat/IBM in the past" 🙃 Like that's all you got? If we'd go by that, we would have to trash almost the entire FOSS ecosystem. And of course harassing and sending people death threats over ties to Red Hat or IBM is such a toxic part of this FOSS community and almost nobody says anything against it anyway. Like.. mention "dude is bad because of RH" and you get one million likes.
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@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems 2026-03-21 14:38
@Foxboron, well, I suppose i'm missing some context here, but it really sounds like you are defending people who aren't just "forced" to implement something, but who are doing that wilfully while having openly expressed opinions largely in agreement with these laws. In other words, it sounds like another case of "Don't be angry at nazis, they're people too. Just kiss their feet and hope they don't decide that you don't deserve to live the next week. Unless they already believe that, and are just waiting for a good excuse to have you executed."
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@kallisti@infosec.exchange 2026-03-21 14:50
@Foxboron 100% agree. Sure, there's zero justification for complying in advance instead of doing the reasonable thing and just... not implementing this bullshit. But that doesn't justify any personal attacks, harassment and threats against the people. Discontent can be expressed peacefully.
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@kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.org 2026-03-21 15:20
@Foxboron +1 I was kinda afraid of where this would all go after having seen one blogpost about the guy who did the systemd PR for it.... welp
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@justsoup@mstdn.social 2026-03-21 16:00
@Foxboron People make bad decisions all the time, but for some reason FOSS users like to strawman devs into the devil over them. Nobody is faultless. Edit: I do also see the irony of me strawmanning general FOSS users as reactionary. I mostly just mean the wider "community". At least, the vocal portion.
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@pinskia@hachyderm.io 2026-03-21 16:35
@Foxboron yes and no. You can be angry with "foss" (I put it in quotes as the things they are implementing are anti foss ideals) developer for implementing stuff that maybe should not be implemented just yet.
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@YourShadowDani@mastodon.social 2026-03-21 20:15
@Foxboron I'd agree with you if they weren't complying ahead of time. Maybe developers should consider not being complicit with growing fascism?
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@TheRealPomax@mastodon.social 2026-03-22 05:09
@Foxboron what if we turn the anger into calling this out in the issue trackers? Which is what folks did. Then the issue tracker got locked down. Your toot is pulling double duty as both "don't harass/doxx people" which, yes, obviously, don't fucking harass individuals. Good call-out. But at the same time it *also* reads as then saying "don't complain to FOSS maintainers" which, no, you absolutely should. Everyone should complain loud and publicly about nonsense like what systemd just pulled.
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@txtx@mastodon.social 2026-03-22 05:15
@Foxboron Thank you for saying this. I've unfollowed a few people today. It's ridiculous. People keep going on about freedom of expression in FOSS just as they mob and coerce a guy who writes code they don't agree with. What kind of bullshit freedom of expression is this.
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@fun@berkeley.edu.pl 2026-03-22 17:39
@Foxboron I saw a post of someone trying to start a harassment campaign in my feed and was just about to write this. Thank you