Post #49840
2025-12-10 19:18 UTC
Replies (3)
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@mkwt@lemmy.world 2025-12-10 19:41
If he’s a US citizen, he’s better off refusing to enter any PIN. That’s protected by the 5th amendment. If not a citizen and this was in a port of entry context, then he would still have the 5th amendment protection. But customs can simply choose to refuse entry on discretion. So that’s a potentially serious consequence.
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@atrielienz@lemmy.world 2025-12-10 20:28
Then they should have to explain understand what law or suspected crime he was detained and his phone was taken as evidence. Because otherwise they can’t prove he deleted evidence of a suspected crime. So what is the suspected crime?
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@potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 2025-12-11 05:36
It should be noted for the record, if you ever have to use your duress code, do it before you hand the device over, don’t offer it up to them, and SHUT THE FUCK UP. If you have time, turn the phone back on and you’ll get a “recovery” screen asking to do a factory reset. Select this and let it boot back to the setup screen then turn it off again. It’s now in a state where, if you remembered to shut the fuck up, they’ll have a much harder time proving that you destroyed evidence and didn’t just hand over a device you hadn’t setup yet, as is a somewhat common (good) practice with border crossings. As with all things you may have to depend on, ideally you should test this flow. Carefully make a backup, verify the backup integrity, then use the duress pin ensuring that everything works the way you expected. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oM0IB-IiM