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2026-08-08 22:16 UTC

as a former drug user i can tell you for certain drugs are not just to deal with poverty. it’s part of it but it’s probably not even the majority of it. and yeah, you can say “capitalism” is the reason why jobs left michigan, but that’s not an argument for communism that’s an argument for better regulated capitalism. OP is comparing capitalism to communism in terms of poverty, and the poverty caused by capitalism isn’t even in the same stratosphere and poverty caused by communism. communism had people starving to death, capitalism at least has keeps everyone fed. nobody starves to death in america. my point is communism doesn’t work especially compared to capitalism and i was being a bit hyperbolic in my original comment. also, gangs are not solely the product of capitalism either, nor is poverty, so linking the two when communisms failures are a direct link to the problems they cause as opposed to capitalism having problems but those problems not being caused by capitalism is the difference.

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@SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2026-08-09 02:36

the poverty caused by capitalism isn’t even in the same stratosphere You’re right! Poverty caused by capitalism is orders of magnitude worse! Gini coefficient is a much better way to measure poverty. nobody starves to death in america 21,020 people died from malnutrition in the US in 2022 as a primary cause of death. 20,552 of those were from the “not enough to eat” kind of malnutrition, 468 were from the “not enough nutrition” kind. Expanding it to secondary causes, which gets a bit trickier to cite as you need to use the cdc’s WONDER search, has 85,406 which will includes most of the diabetic, anorexia, metabolic, absorption, immunologic, etc. kind of situations. Using that broader definition results in 513,987 people dying, primarily or from complications due to malnutrition, in the 2018-2024 range. What capitalism does do a good job of though is masking the reality of this kind of starvation. communisms failures are a direct link to the problems they cause You want to define those failures? I can draw a direct line from the failures I have outlined above and the underlying causes inherent within the capitalist means of production. Can you do the same for communism?

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