Post #44165

2025-12-09 04:39 UTC

I feel like you’re missing the economic system vs. the government system. Those are two separate entities that must be controlled for. Mu point here is that capitalism is a fucking mess, with no government controls. Of course it is! As with any economic system.

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@daannii@lemmy.world 2025-12-09 06:21

Uh… Government controls the economic system by laws and enforcement of said laws.

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@loonsun@sh.itjust.works 2025-12-09 14:44

Well yeah any economic system requires government oversight to be effective but that’s because there isn’t really a decoupling of government and economics. Our current governments around the world are primarily representative democratic nation states and they are neoliberal capitalist institutions. These are not separate, both have evolved alongside each other and we are currently seeing them crack under pressure together. There is no point in making this distinction at the macro level.

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@dontmindmehere@programming.dev 2025-12-09 16:53

politics and economy are not separate worlds. capital, monopoly or not, is political power greater than any vote or government seat what sense does it make to keep the ruling class in check while letting them keep their power? can you make a benevolent mafia by taxing the racket and breaking up mafia monopolies?

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@PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2025-12-10 08:13

Surprise! The system of accumulating power was used to gain power to influence the government to let them gain more power to influence the government to let them gain more power to influence the government… Ad infinitum. Government regulation of capitalism is fundamentally impossible in the long term, unless you lock it down early into something barely recognizable as capitalism. That ship has sailed long long ago.

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