Post #4394025

2026-08-05 19:47 UTC

oh cool, somehow the Symbolics Lisp Machine is now an LLM grift: > Outproduce engineering teams. Lisp Machine productivity (1,000 lines of debugged Lisp per day, equivalent to 10,000 lines of C) compounds with LLM coding agents driving the image directly. The leverage approaches one hundred to one against conventional C engineering teams. https://hachyderm.io/@gmpalter/117044268951603975

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@zzt@mas.to 2026-08-05 19:51

> Productivity follows the architecture. A skilled programmer in the Lisp Machine environment routinely produces 1,000 lines of debugged Lisp in a day, functionally equivalent to 10,000 lines of C, or three man-years of work for the C programmer. Lisp wizards using abstraction-oriented programming inside a meta-circular operating system replace teams of software engineers without the coordination overhead Brooks called the mythical man-month. Add an LLM coding agent and productivity multiplies by another two orders of magnitude. As LLM technology evolves, productivity, scale, and automation will only increase. literally nobody wants this what the fuck are you doing anyone still using Genera (previously without Symbolics’ permission, they’ve made it free now that it’s useful for the grift) is literally only doing it because the tooling and language feel nice to use who the fuck is this for

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@jwz@mastodon.social 2026-08-05 21:20

@zzt@mas.to tag: "brand necrophilia"

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