it is what it is
2026-08-02 18:05 UTC
Replies (8)
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@Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 2026-08-02 19:37
They call themselves ‘elites’ but the vast majority of them have achieved everything in life on zero merit.
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@Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 2026-08-02 20:09
But at what cost!?
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@stefenauris@pawb.social 2026-08-02 21:00
I get the point we’re trying to make but it’s a little disingenuous because the elite has the backing of institutions like the military and police
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@Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2026-08-03 00:36
It’s always “Won’t somebody please think of the children?!?!” till kids get shot then it’s “eh who cares. That’s the price of freedom baby!!!”
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@Xeno@lemmy.zip 2026-08-03 00:53
The addition of the red hat means the people pictured actually support the elites in question. Having said that, you’re talking about violent revolution. Look at basically every example in history. They all get much worse before they get better. The people that need to die, die. Sure. And it’s satisfying because those people historically have grown beyond what conventional institutions of justice could do anything about. Problem is, the revolution doesn’t just stop once the problem is gone. People don’t stop dying, they just stop deserving it. Point is, people are armed as a desperate last resort that we pray we will never need, because people who’ve actually fought in wars know that outcome is far worse and far more horrifying than any diplomatic compromise would have been. War is not how you solve a handful of wealthy elites who are effectively above the law. It’s how you solve families being executed in the streets or put into concentration camps. We’re not there yet. Though admittedly we’re closer than we’ve ever been - ironically thanks to people in red hats.
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@Xeno@lemmy.zip 2026-08-03 02:07
Collapse and revolution are the same thing. And you can’t guillotine anyone, as a rule, without due process at a minimum. Swap out the word “elites” in your comment with any other group name and it should swiftly become clear why. It’s one of the cruel jokes of the world that those who call for war the loudest are those who’ve never seen it, while those who’ve fought in them are the ones who wait until it’s absolutely necessary to do so again - or who actually appreciate what “absolutely necessary” means.
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@Ildsaye@hexbear.net 2026-08-03 07:05
The best-funded media have sold the message that college students and politically-active aunties who have seen one too many local children die are the elites. The ‘elite’ label can be stuck on anyone who exerts influence, it implies power pejoratively but not descriptively. That’s why revolutionaries use more precise terms like capital owner instead.
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@Xeno@lemmy.zip 2026-08-03 22:17
Of course they do. Historically they’ve only happened when a country reached a point where there were was no other recourse. At that point, of course they’re going to make things better - “worse” isn’t really a possibility when revolution becomes necessary, which is kind of the point. Leaping to war before that point, on the other hand… well, there aren’t any examples of that which come to mind. Which suggests that, on the bright side, people apparently tend not to resort to revolution until it’s actually required.