Post #408221
2026-02-18 12:35 UTC
Replies (19)
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@tay@tech.lgbt 2026-02-18 14:19
today i'm learning i should really start using Signal i guess (they added chat history backup so it's actually viable now) for me i mainly preferred telegram/discord but the enshittification is really getting to both matrix is _fine_ if janky, slow and makes me worry every time i join a chat if its going to make my postgres explode xmpp does not have any decent ios clients so immediately disqualified i never really used signal because of weird arbitrary limitations (you could only backup chat history if you're on android, device transfer is broken, devices with 7" screens must be secondary devices, etc) and the others i have no experience with
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@navi@social.vlhl.dev 2026-02-18 12:53
@tay@tech.lgbt this is missing irc which i happily use daily (the missing features depends on the server more than anything)
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@lumi@snug.moe 2026-02-18 12:54
@tay@tech.lgbt i would also be happy using deltachat. irc would also be fine for a project chat but nothing else due to lack of e2ee i would begrudgingly consider using stoat for project chat if invited but not for any dms due to lack of e2ee fluxer is slopware so wouldn't touch it. I don't know anything about spacebar signal, telegram and discord are not acceptable, either due to requiring a phone number to use, or due to lack of e2ee. also centralization is icky and discord is proprietary on top of that
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@zaire@fedi.absturztau.be 2026-02-18 13:01
@tay@tech.lgbt delta chat only
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@alextecplayz@techhub.social 2026-02-18 13:04
@tay@tech.lgbt only Signal for me, I'm looking forward to Molly's Flatline server, hopefully it will eventually support federation or something. And someday when Fedi gets E2EE DMs. I refuse to use anything else because people smarter than me from the cryptography field (e.g. Soatok) have written countless blog posts and articles about why XMPP, Matrix, *shudder* Session and Threema, and so on, suck, and we shouldn't use them if we give a shit about security and privacy. Telegram is not E2EE unless you use secret chats. Group chats and regular DMs are just not encrypted at all besides standard server security. Discord is a shithole and a privacy nightmare, Stoat (was Revolt, tested it a bit back then) doesn't do much and E2EE has been on the back-burner for years. Matrix is very problematic because only a few clients implement the latest features so it's either Element / Element X or some other client that has bad UI and doesn't support the latest features.
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@lispi314@udongein.xyz 2026-02-18 13:15
@tay@tech.lgbt None of these, the XMPP servers I use are setup for closed groups and non-federating. IRC has different identities I will not crosslink. I could make new accounts on other IRC or XMPP servers.
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@carto@mastodon.online 2026-02-18 13:28
@tay@tech.lgbt Also Delta
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@pipe_dreams@mk.absturztau.be 2026-02-18 13:36
@tay@tech.lgbt Critterchat by @dragonminded@dragonminded@mk.absturztau.be@chitter.xyz
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@tarix29@tech.lgbt 2026-02-18 14:29
@tay@tech.lgbt also Delta Chat!
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@korgie@tech.lgbt 2026-02-18 18:23
@tay@tech.lgbt I haven't decided yet, but it'll have to be something with native apps available. I am done with Electron-based apps that support a project I don't like (Chromium), plus which use too much RAM and always just feel laggy. And which always have UI that just feels... weirdly off. I've been hearing a lot about Fluxer, specifically, but it's unfortunately a total no-go for me. Unless I can find native apps that are compatible and feel good to use, perhaps. I tried Matrix a couple years ago (I don't remember exactly when; time is a foreign concept to me) and it was confusing. I don't find Mastodon/Fediverse confusing, but Matrix I did.
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@aperture@snug.moe 2026-02-18 19:59
@tay@tech.lgbt i don't mean this dramatically, but none, i don't particularly like any service as it currently is most liked is signal rn ig but that's an SMS/RCS or whatever replacement to me, not a discord replacement, i need to be able to have servers [or whatever you wanna call them] to consider it my main option tbf i have not been able to log into stoat because of the situation to try it so i have no opinions on stoat atm so like, i guess signals ok? but it's really subpar - carrie
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@zaki@plasmatrap.com 2026-02-18 20:03
@tay@tech.lgbt tbh i'm the kind that's just "whatever the other end uses, just tell me so i can set it up" (i already have a gazillion accounts anyway, so like)
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@ledoian@pleroma.ledoian.cz 2026-02-18 20:14
@tay@tech.lgbt email. Also maybe Fedi DMs or direct posts tbf.
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@starlight@mk.absturztau.be 2026-02-18 20:21
@tay@tech.lgbt None of them, they all lack something I want or have something I don't want.
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@arthfach@arthfach.com 2026-02-18 21:00
@tay@tech.lgbt Signal and XMPP are my go-tos; everything else is compromised, AI-driven, or unreliable.
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@fox@wanderingwires.net 2026-02-18 21:04
@tay@tech.lgbt I have my discord account for now, but I'll probably delete/stop using it. Signal I have set up and use already but my account is under the name I use in offline life, so I wouldn't want to talk to online acquaintances on there for the most part. Telegram is for reactionary conspiracy weirdos and FBI honeypots. I will probably set up XMPP or Matrix cuz my techie gf has used them before. Rest of these I haven't heard of.
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@entropic_decay@floofy.tech 2026-02-18 21:44
@tay@tech.lgbt only reason im not including fluxer is it won't let me sign in on my phone due to login email-checking requirements. it sends an email with a confirmation link, but that link expires after 30 minutes and for some reason it takes longer than that to even send to me so it's already expired by the time i get it
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@baralheia@dragonchat.org 2026-02-18 22:26
@tay@tech.lgbt I voted but... I have next to no experience with most of these platforms unfortunately so I don't know how useful my input would be. I never really liked Discord as a real-time chat platform and rarely used it for such. Most of what I did use Discord for can easily be replaced with a modern forum system like Discourse and the like. Even though I know it's problematic, for real-time chat Telegram so far is my preferred platform... Mostly because that's where the overwhelming majority of my friends are.
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@username@tech.lgbt 2026-02-19 01:57
@tay@tech.lgbt i mean, it depends on context? i'd be happy to use Signal, WhatsApp, RCS, Discord, and Instagram (preferred in that order). but if i need pseudonymity or screen sharing or large (>10 people) groups or end-to-end encryption then that'll change.