@sapphire@shortstacksran.ch @Ace66062@shortstacksran.ch @Iffine@varishangout.net @TopBep@varishangout.net yeah but I think physical releases are bad too because a cd and a 10 page manual printed in black and white are not very substantial parts of the product, and infinitely reproducible (with the equipment you're expected to own in the first place) code is definitely insubstantial. which may be the book thing you mentioned, I'm not certain what you mean by that