@ocotillo42 I think I've mentioned my wife and I used to throw dinner parties when we lived in Downtown Chicago. We'd have 8-12 people and we made a effort to have people from all parts of the political wheel. I never held with conservative opinions (I was still a bit blue pilled) but during the debate I might reference two or three books, a study, a docko, a Tedtalk and if i didnt toes the leftist line somebody would call me ignorant. This tickled my wife to no end and would say something like "he may be ignorant but hes the best read ignorant guy you've ever debated." You might imagine the lefties did not take kindly to that rebuke.