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Post #3997104

2026-07-21 19:58 UTC

@wrzky@kolektiva.social @fabio@manganiello.eu Okay, sure. Call it pan-Arabic and anti-colonial; it still isn’t strongly democratic or pluralistic. It’s not coincidental that democratic countries generally support a two-state solution.

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  • @wrzky@kolektiva.social 2026-07-21 20:53

    @KerryMitchell@mastodon.social @fabio@manganiello.eu Notice the move: I say "Arabised" denies local agency, and the reply is "okay, sure, but it's still not democratic or pluralistic." What exactly are you trying to say here, Kerry? And "democratic countries generally support a two-state solution" proves nothing about the region's pluralism. It proves that a two-state framework has been the dominant diplomatic consensus for decades, for reasons having nothing to do with whether Arab states are internally democratic. Plenty of non-democratic illegal states back a two-state solution too; US, Canada, Australia are some of them. There's no real democracy on stolen land, after all. Plenty of actual democracies have been walking away from it as facts on the ground shift. Correlation with "democratic countries" isn't evidence of anything except which framework has had the most diplomatic runway. If the claim is that lack of democracy in the region justifies skepticism toward Palestinian self-determination specifically, say that plainly instead of implying it through a vague appeal to what "democratic countries generally" do.

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