Post #3992854

2026-07-21 18:21 UTC

Mozilla and, by extension, Firefox have laid out the direction they want to go - and have consistently moved in that direction. There is no redemption arc there, they are not going to turn the ship around - and every week and month that goes by, Firefox gains more slop and drifts further from the visions that founded it. Projects like Tor Browser and Waterfox are painstakingly disabling / patching out the worst - but every release becomes more expensive, and things do slip through.

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@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social 2026-07-21 18:34

An uninformed plan: - Take Tor's base Browser, the one they use as a branding-neutral base (very clever name) for the privacy-focused soft forks Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser (i know, i know - but they already paid for the work, so some good might as well come out of it) - Rebase your soft forks on Base Browser, and benefit from that work - Form a working group to co-manage base browser - Hard-fork from firefox as you reject future rebases in favour of privacy and humanity.

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@claudegohier@mastodon.xyz 2026-07-21 18:23

@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social What's your opinion on Zen browser?

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@jbowen@mast.hpc.social 2026-07-21 18:25

@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social > I fear we have already lost I tend to think we already have. What's needed is an independent browser not based on Gecko, Blink, or WebKit. I was initially excited about Ladybird, but they turned out to have weird right-wing leanings. So I'm just back to despair (which would be a fun name for a new browser engine...)

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@iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social 2026-07-21 18:32

Thoroughly disheartening, isn’t it? @sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social

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@Netzblockierer@tech.lgbt 2026-07-21 21:45

@sarahjamielewis@mastodon.social sadly there is no alternative to @torproject@mastodon.social / #TorBrowser & @Waterfox@mastodon.social …

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