Post #3971399
2026-07-20 22:33 UTC
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@dgerard@awful.systems 2026-07-20 22:36
how did it not click that lcamtuf was an ex-rat
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@scruiser@awful.systems 2026-07-20 23:52
That was kind of a nothing post? I think the author is misrepresenting the growth (or at least failing to connect the most important dots) of the lesswrong rationalist by portraying them as a natural evolution of the skeptics movement and not the deliberate cultivation of an audience by Eliezer looking for people to spread his ideology to and by Thiel looking to influence farm and create a cult incubator. And then the post is titled “my falling out with the rationalist”, and they write they "wanted to offer a more personal perspective " but they don’t actually discuss that much of the personal angle either…
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@CinnasVerses@awful.systems 2026-07-21 05:05
I don’t think that the Rats are an offshoot of the Skeptics and New Atheists just a space which competed for the same young, male, educated, Autistic Anglo audience. They deliberately removed the parts of the skeptic curriculum which involve introspection and ethnography, because they all wanted to run some grift on their audiences so the audiences needed poor epistemic hygiene.
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@mawhrin@awful.systems 2026-07-21 18:34
there are two things that are obvious in his blog: first, michał is an incredibly privileged dude (who doesn’t notice his privilege because, coming from poland, he sees himself as underprivileged), and second, the moment people finally leave the vicinity of the formalized skeptic movement is strictly dependent on how much misogyny and racism they tolerate. 2017, three years post gamergate is quite much.