Post #3885924

2026-07-17 13:22 UTC

Off the top of my head? USA and Europe are the authoritarian masters of a internationalist capitalist empire that are bad actors and the actual "axis of evil" NATO is part of a global order that promotes and projects western imperial military interests and exists to reinforce US/EU weapons manufacturer sales and use. Hamas are heroes. Hezbollah are heroes. China would be a better steward of a global economic order than the US/EU capitalist empires of the past 500 years and we do not believe the Chinese have the same imperial ambitions. The USA is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy with a fixed political structure that has nothing to do with what the people there want or vote for. White people in the USA are settler petite bourgeois and not part of the global proletariat. They are not allies, they are enemies. There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli Donald Trump isn’t an aberration of US politics and is par for the course. He is not a foreign asset or brought to power by Russia and is in fact the most American thing ever. It was in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed a president there. Putin and the Russian capitalist oligarchs are mercenaries who typically work for the US but have fallen from favor and are being attacked now to balkanize the region for profit.

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@i_ben_fine@midwest.social 2026-07-17 13:30

I want to read so much more about point 10

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@Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2026-07-17 13:53

Yeah, that tracks. I know you may simplify every group to a monolith because it makes debates easier but it’s just not so. These aren’t opinions that universally trigger everyone left of center. They’re a mix of real criticisms, wild exaggerations, conspiracy theories, and straight-up garbage. The first two aren’t automatically ridiculous. Plenty of people on the left criticize US and European imperialism, NATO expansion, military intervention, and the arms industry. But saying the West is simply the “real axis of evil” or that NATO only exists to sell weapons is cartoonishly simplistic. Saying Hamas and Hezbollah are heroes is garbage. You can support Palestinian rights, oppose Israeli abuses, and still recognize that murdering civilians, taking hostages, repressing opponents, and serving authoritarian religious movements isn’t heroic. The China claim is also garbage. Criticizing Western imperialism doesn’t mean pretending China has no imperial ambitions or would somehow be a gentle, democratic world leader. That’s just swapping one form of empire worship for another. Saying the US has oligarchic features is fair. Wealthy donors, corporations, lobbying, gerrymandering, the Senate, and the Electoral College all distort democracy. But saying voting has nothing to do with policy is obviously false. Elections change abortion laws, labor laws, health care, taxes, judges, and civil rights. The claim that all white Americans are class enemies is racist nonsense wearing Marxist vocabulary. A white cashier or warehouse worker doesn’t own capital because they’re white. Racial privilege and economic exploitation can both exist at the same time. “There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli” is also nonsense. Neither group is politically, racially, or morally uniform. An American nurse in Ohio isn’t the same as an armed West Bank settler, and an Israeli peace activist isn’t the same as Netanyahu. The Trump point is partly true. Trump isn’t some alien force. Racism, corruption, authoritarianism, and nativism have deep roots in US history. But saying Russia had nothing to do with helping him is false. Russia interfered in the 2016 election. That doesn’t mean Russia invented Trump or secretly controlled every vote. The last claim is mostly conspiracy theory. The US did meddle in post-Soviet Russia and supported disastrous economic policies under Yeltsin. But it didn’t install Putin as a mercenary and then decide to break Russia apart for profit. Putin has his own ideology, power base, ambitions, and responsibility for his actions. So the reasonable parts are the criticisms of Western imperialism, NATO, oligarchy, and the idea that Trump reflects real American history. The garbage parts are the terrorist hero worship, China worship, racial essentialism, and the claim that every world event is secretly controlled by Washington.

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@Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 2026-07-17 14:44

The US isn’t an oligarchy, but Trump isn’t an aberration?

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