Post #3827892
2026-07-15 08:18 UTC
This is a classic rationalist fallacy that we see repeated throughout the piece of assuming that ultimately if you express the argument properly everyone will agree on the right thing
This is complementary to their heterodoxy fetish, leading to fringe or outright bonkers but excruciatingly formalistic positions routinely sleight-of-handing themselves into prominence in the movement.
It’s fine for AIs to get better at using valid arguments and evidence to convince people of things for the right reasons. That kind of persuasion is asymmetric: it works much better when the argument pushes towards the truth.
That’s not how the postmodern condition works
That’s just rationalists believing that once you amass enough IQ/Mana points you unlock the mind control spell.
Eliezer Yudkowsky - who totally isn’t a cult leader
He is definitely a cult enabler and a huge cult beneficiary, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen evidence he could lead shit to fuck.
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@CinnasVerses@awful.systems 2026-07-15 19:20
I think Yud does not want the responsibility. LessWrong and Effective Altruism attracted so many people, and he discovered that trying to manage the communities was too much work, so he just tweets and publishes fanfic. This is convenient for his fans because they can pick and chose which of his ideas are the Real Yud Thought.
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@BioMan@awful.systems 2026-07-15 19:37
Oh Yud has DEFINITELY taken advantage of his followers like a cult leader.