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Post #3770890

2026-07-12 22:51 UTC

Not sure whether you’re being sarcastic here Jesus. “Name a publicly traded company that generated significant profit as a result of buying llm services from a provider.” This at least is just a problem of relevance. Utility is not measured in money - especially for open-source non-profits like Zig - and people selling shovels and promises are obviously not the best place to look for success stories in mineral rights. But I’ve seen several Youtube channels hand-wave complicated software for devices they’ve just built from scratch. And several copyleft projects are caught in philosophical arguments against permissive rewrites with completely different code, structure, and/or programming language. And a few ultra-niche projects simply typed “rewrite this in Rust” for an order-of-magnitude speed boost. The kneejerk insistence that LLMs are never useful is wishful thinking. It’s less defensible than equally glib promises of institutional value, because even some of the people loudly distancing themselves do so because it worked. ‘I didn’t recognize my own codebase!’ Yeah, because you didn’t write it. The chatbot did. It’s not Inception-ing the experience of making it yourself; it’s inventing exactly the Github dead-end you’d like to find.

Replies (2)

  • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2026-07-13 06:33

    Downvoters have absolutely fucking nothing to say, but sure are mad about something they can’t defend.

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  • @xthexder@l.sw0.com 2026-07-13 10:18

    I’m curious what kinds of projects you’ve seen firmware written for. The YouTube projects I’ve seen usually don’t require more than a handfull of if-statements on an Arduino to accomplish what they need. In my experience, LLMs are capable of solving the kinds of problems you could have copy-pasted from StackOverflow, but as soon as you try and do something too complicated or unique, it falls apart. The trap is that it seems capable at a surface level in areas people aren’t personally an expert in and then assume it can accomplish real tasks on its own like an expert. It can be great as a tool for getting started, or for otherwise throwaway code, but I’ve yet to see any model produce code that’s complex yet maintainable in the long term.

    Open ##3782654