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• @EchoDelta_9@programming.dev 2026-06-25 18:26

  This became a lot longer of a writing than I expected. My apologies*. So, without further ado. I got confused with CentOS changes in 2000: blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ It eroded my trust with anything Red Hat-related. And the acquisition by IBM in 2019 had already damaged its image. Ah okay. Thanks for clarifying! I remember that the pushback was real on that one. But, I’m not sure if it was justified. If anything, I’d say that people had a knee-jerk reaction to it and it soon after became a ‘toxic’ environment in which reasonable discourse was (almost) non-existent. However, Gordon Messmer^[Yeah, yeah; he works at Red Hat, so you might be rightfully skeptical whether he can even be unbiased. However, he has build so much good will through his community efforts that I’m absolutely giving him the benefit of doubt. Though, please feel free to disagree with me on this.]'s piece on this suggests that CentOS was everything but what was idealized by the community. As such, being converted to CentOS Stream might have been a positive change. Anyhow, honestly, I’m not well-versed with RHEL(-clones). So feel free to dismiss anything I’ve said 😜. Moving on… What’s perhaps important to note is that Fedora’s relation to Red Hat is a curious one. For example, Fedora defaults to Btrfs for its file system while Red Hat has deprecated it for quite a while now. Furthermore, while Red Hat seems to go pretty hard on Image Mode, Fedora didn’t even block a major update (until very recently) if some bug impacted its atomic variants very negatively. So, basically, Red Hat’s priorities =/= Fedora’s priorities. But, having said all of that, I do respect your choice to not trust anything Red Hat-related. Perhaps, I would have done so as well, were it not for the fact that I’ve been daily driving Fedora(-derivatives) for quite a while. Yes, I admit that I’m probably biased 😅. Last time I tried Fedora (around last year), anything installed via the “software” app in GNOME defaulted to a flatpak install. Interesting. I literally did a fresh Fedora install within a VM and the results have been interesting: If it catches (!) that the package is available within any non-flatpak repository, then it will prefer the .rpm install by default. Examples include Steam and GNOME builder. However, if for some strange reason the .rpm package is not picked up, then it does default to flatpak. And it’s not possible to select the .rpm package within the GUI either. Even though sudo dnf install does work as you’d expect 😅. Examples include Neovim. I wonder if you had to deal with the above shenanigans last year as well. Or, perhaps, it was even worse for some awful reason. Anyhow, there’s more truth to it than I expected. Though, I’d argue it’s probably some bug or otherwise unintended behavior. If you’ve read all of my ramblings, then I’d like to thank you for the effort 😊! Have a good one fam!

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