Email ownership, I give up.
2026-06-08 02:21 UTC
Replies (18)
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@cybervseas@lemmy.world 2026-06-08 03:46
I’m sorry to great it’s been so frustrating for you. I know we all have our own tolerances for random junk and I’m glad you’re making the right decision for you at this time. I’ve been running mailinabox for almost two years now and it has been very good for me. Especially once I send some email to my family members’ Gmail address and had them Mark it as “not spam” my deliverability has become very good.
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@Zachariah@lemmy.world 2026-06-08 03:54
I also use mxroute. I paid for ten years at once. I only needed it because I wanted a catch-all and my previous hosting provider stopped allowing that. My email solution for decades has been to have a mailbox separate from my email domain. Currently it’s FastMail. I then give out a different entity@example.com to each entity that needs my email address. I can then shut off (route to null) any address that starts getting spam. I did order Run Your Own Mail Server because one day I’d like to try. From the Kickstarter: Running a mail server is an advanced systems administration skill, though. Mind tricks are not enough. You need to be able to operate a Unix-like operating system, understand logging and TLS, make DNS changes and adjust packet filters. RYOMS takes you through the protocol, configuring Postfix and Dovecot, and the DKIM and SPF and DMARC authentication protocols. (They’re not proper authentication protocols, but that’s what the Empire calls them.) It covers anti-spam measures, mail filters, and virtual domains, all at the command line and with pretty web interfaces. While the reference platforms are Debian and FreeBSD, the Postfix and Dovecot servers and assorted infrastructure work on any open source Unix. This book does not contain absolutely everything you might ever need to understand running a mail server. Every environment has its oddities. But it does contain the core knowledge that every mail administrator must have. A sysadmin with this orientation can sort out their edges easily enough. Coping with edges is what we do.
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@OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 2026-06-08 03:59
Posteo is a good provider for 1usd per month.
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@ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-06-08 04:42
If you want to give it another try, I’ve used Mailcow for about a decade now, after running on Exchange for twenty before that. Mailcow is way easier to set up and maintain than Exchange. Key to it all is making sure you have your DKIM, dmarc and SPF records set up correctly, as well as a PTR with your internet provider if you can manage it, though that seems optional. Never had a problem with the big providers bouncing my mails, just a couple little outfits that couldn’t figure their filters out correctly.
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@Korkki@lemmy.ml 2026-06-08 03:15
Never self host email. It’s way too much of a pain.
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@uuj8za@piefed.social 2026-06-08 04:25
Yeah, hosting your own email server is pretty tough. I think something like https://migadu.com/ might be more in the middle of hosting your own server and purely using someone else’s frontend.
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@hperrin@lemmy.ca 2026-06-08 03:31
This really saddens me. Email is such a fundamentally good and open protocol. The only reason people don’t like it is because of big tech’s shenanigans. I run an email service called Port87. I invite you to try it and see if it can convince you that email is actually a great technology, when detached from big tech slop. It’s got some really killer features that make it great for organization and preventing spam. You can also tell it that on certain addresses, it should completely ignore the strict auth requirements it usually has, so it will accept email from your own services without you having to set up all the extra bullshit that’s meant for stuff that matters more.
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@Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2026-06-08 05:42
What is the problem? I have been self hosting my mail for the last 20+ years and has always worked pretty well. I rent a VPS for that since you should not use a residential address for email servers. If you are careful enough to configure it properly I assure you that it works and it’s perfectly usable and stable All my family primary email addresses are managed in that way on my various domains and we never had a single issue Today it’s even easier because there are all in one docker based solutions. But going the hard way is perfectly doable as well. Here is my experience, on my wiki, if you are interested wiki.gardiol.org/doku.php?id=email%3Astart Be aware that there are no optional steps: everything must be properly installed and setup from DNS entries to dkim/dmarc and certificates. But I promise, maintenance it basically zero after a proper setup. And I think twice in 20 years something broke. And the nice part of that email will just be delayed and delivered after you fix it, nothing gets ever lost I love email, with all it downfalls, it’s still one of the most resilient and solid stuff on the internet.
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@Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 2026-06-08 05:50
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread: Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System SMTP Simple Mail Transfer Protocol TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL VPN Virtual Private Network VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) [Thread #4 for this comm, first seen 8th Jun 2026, 05:50] [FAQ] [Full list] [@Two9A@hachyderm.io] [Source code]
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@placebo@lemmy.zip 2026-06-08 06:00
You don’t need your own email server to degoogle your life.
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@lokalhorst@feddit.org 2026-06-08 06:00
Just use mailbox.org or posteo.de . Using one of those providers is so much better than a Google mail address but so easier than hosting your own mail server.
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@probable_possum@leminal.space 2026-06-08 06:48
hub.docker.com/r/mailserver/docker-mailserver/ It just works. Once you got it working.
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@somegeek@programming.dev 2026-06-08 10:17
What is a good, paid email service that is Not expensive Can be payed wity crypto Can use my own domain ?
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@prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 2026-06-08 16:11
Have you tried mailcow.email Its dockerized and preconfigured and cones with tools to manage. I am happy and I never wanted to touch mail.
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@mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-06-08 20:41
I prefer to follow the advice from people who actually set up and maintain email servers: “Fucking don’t. It’s not worth it.” Just get a custom domain and run it through an existing email provider.
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@kepix@lemmy.world 2026-06-09 06:52
weird to see someonengetting worked up about a service he barely uses and sending little data by default.
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@sunbeam60@feddit.uk 2026-06-09 07:03
Running your own email server is easy. Getting your email accepted by other servers is hard. Hosting anything publicly requires a significant amount of hardening. Neither of those two tasks are easy or low maintenance. I self host almost everything and I’ve run my own mail server (with occasional rejection). It’s not worth it for me; I now use a commercial, paid provider.
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@Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2026-06-09 07:57
People repeat and repeat that email is hard but it’s a legend. I have been self hosting for years on a residential ip and a random domain and it just works