Anthropic/OpenAI may be spending more than $1000 for every $100 you pay them

@OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 2026-06-07 18:29

Of course it is, it’s essentially a scam. They just need enough humans to keep investing until they check out and run with a bailout.

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@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2026-06-08 04:29

Honestly Google is likely to beat openAI and Anthropic as things are. OpenAI and Anthropic have to buy/rent their hardware from Nvidia, while Google is making their own TPU hardware. Google’s hardware costs on AI is way lower, every dollar they spend on it goes a lot farther. And unlike the other two, they’re already a profitable company. They’re making record profits right now. They don’t have a desperate need to figure out how to make back billions on their AI models, they can just keep offering Gemini at a comparatively cheap price and wait for anthropic and open AI to bankrupt themselves.

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@FaceDeer@fedia.io 2026-06-07 20:11

That's how it goes for any industry in its growth phase. A lot of money is spent on research and infrastructure before it starts to collect revenue.

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@expatriado@lemmy.world 2026-06-07 18:26

they are spending infinite money for every $1 i pay them

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@PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2026-06-08 06:03

Good thing I don’t personally pay them anything

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@IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2026-06-07 21:14

reminder than during 2019 there were streaming services popping left and right, all showing tremendous growth because they started from zero, and articles were about how bad Netflix was doing due to having practically no growth compared with the competition (they already had a massive subscriber base). Twist? Netflix was the only streaming service that was actually making a profit, the rest were a massive loss but big growth. Needless to say most of those streaming services died; who remembers DC streaming service, or Yahoo’s? While Netflix is basically as stong as ever, despite the prevalent enshitification happening through the whole industry. Point of the story? shareholders don’t care about stable profitable business, only cancerous growth. AI is like that, zero profits, ton of cost, but as long as they show growth the shareholders are happy, regardless of how cooked the books are.

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@Steve@startrek.website 2026-06-07 23:53

How much do they spend when I pay nothing?

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@justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2026-06-07 19:34

My first use of Claude this week, for code reviews only(since no LLM can be trusted to write a user story or test suite), had it gaslight me. It marked down my code for using a specific practice to make some xml safer and easier to read. When I tried things its way, it wanted me to change it back.

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@captain_solanum@sh.itjust.works 2026-06-07 22:07

looks inside But if you use the $100 a month Claude Max plan, and you would use it to the weekly limit by going full ‘agentic coding’ (so almost no human in the loop) you would use an amount of tokens that would cost you more than $1000 at API-pricing. If I watch 600 movies every day on my netflix subscription I am using more energy than I pay them for. Obviously everyone is like me. Therefore they are losing money overall. Wait, their (netflix) earnings say they made a profit last quarter. But my calculations were waterproof! Probably anthropic are not net positive, but they are not spending 10x what people pay them for tokens.

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@IratePirate@feddit.org 2026-06-07 20:25

Joke’s on them. I’m not paying them a dime.

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@Burninator05@lemmy.world 2026-06-08 22:32

I wish that was inversely proportional. The less I pay, somehow it costs them more money.

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@WPSteam@lemmy.world 2026-06-09 05:26

AI Bubble burst coming sooner?

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@nullspace@lemmy.world 2026-06-08 20:57

I can’t imagine paying for AI when the open source tools have made it so easy to set up a model locally.