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2026-06-12 04:19 UTC

So there are a bunch of people on this forum more literary and authorial than I and I welcome any of them to correct me on this, but I’m skeptical of the whole project here of seeking to identify or define a new subgenre that is pushing speculative fiction as a whole forward. It’s always seemed to me like the real creative energy behind this kind of movement doesn’t originate from a defined subgenre as much as from a community of authors in conversation with each other. The identification and labeling comes afterwards as outsiders try to talk about it. In that sense, I don’t think he’s actually identifying that kind of community. Just naming a bunch of writers he likes, to the point of excluding several who he admits would be in this kind of community as defined but he just doesn’t like as much.

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@gerikson@awful.systems 2026-06-12 06:35

It’s been a while since I immersed myself in SF publishing but I think that older terms like “New Wave” and “cyberpunk” were basically marketing terms riding off the hits that spawned them. I believe they were a collaboration between the fandom, magazines and publishers - not in any structured way, but like in music, a term is used to encompass many different acts. One slubstack does not a genre name, tho. And it’s broad enough to be meaningless. For example one of the first authors is Scott Alexander, who is not formally a programmer, just someone who hangs out online terminally. Vinge was a CS prof, but Banks afaik didn’t have any formal CS training. Ken McLeod worked as a programmer, as did Charles Stross. SF is a nerd author paradise and nowadays nerds program, so … chicken and egg?

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