Post #3294209

2026-06-04 00:28 UTC

Don’t bother biting if you can’t chew your food. You will probably choke on your own hubris. If you can’t see not going through the largest retailer as a possible revenue loss I suggest studying business some more and getting back with me. You keep ignoring Valve’s anti-competitive policy. Let me explain it one more time. You can’t get a better price at another store if the game is listed on Steam. Your conjecture is pointless unless the developer does not list on Steam and misses out on the majority of the market. If business only cared about ethics and not money then perhaps your made-up scenario would make some sense, but it does not. The fact that you know Steam intimately is kind of bizarre way to say things. I think I get your point, which amounts to bootlicking because Steam is just the gosh durned best thing for developers since IDE. Pardon me while I go throw up. Your explanation of the antitrust case against MS is pretty poor. While one aspect related to having IE bundled, there are several other issues at hand that you ignore. Hey, I get it. It is complicated and perhaps you should just discuss these with your authoritative source to set yourself straight. Please don’t tell me how the DOJ operates because it changes with every presidency and as I already pointed out, they don’t give a shit about the digital realm because frankly they don’t even understand it. They pretty much leave all monopolies alone and that is why we’re are in such a shitshow free fall right now. Regulatory capture is real yo! You don’t get to decide what anti-trust is or isn’t. I am sorry, but you deny even the most basic of facts so I will kindly ignore your presumptuous statement. If you don’t believe me that is fine, but you present no evidence. bloomberg.com/…/valve-s-antitrust-reckoning-over-… We can see Gabe lying through his teeth and surprise surprise, he doesn’t want anyone to touch his golden goose. Why you carry his water is anybody’s guess but I think it is just general bootlicking, as I alluded to multiple times, unless you have something to say about it otherwise. I also noticed you used some of his talking points, sus! Your appeal to authority is ham fisted and frankly insulting. PM me your “lawyers” contact information and I will discuss this with them directly. Otherwise gfto with your bullshit. Natural monopoly is not defined purely by lack of competition, although that can a big part of the definition. I never said that Steam is a natural monopoly, but it does bare a lot of striking similarities. Traditionally it would not be considered one and there is little doubt that I am taking liberties with that comparison. I think you are correct about Valve pursuing legal and/or punitive action in order for the anti-trust to be legit. eurogamer.net/valve-antitrust-lawsuits-ubisoft-wa… We can see they did engage in anti-competitive practices. Seeing several lawsuits along with Gabe’s outspoken denial of being a monopoly kind of adds up you know. Maybe you think these lawsuits are frivolous or that you are smarter than lawyers who practice in the field. You have failed to convince me Valve is not a monopoly. The only donkey here is a bootlicker who carries water for Gabe. You have been extremely foolish with your questions and have wasted my time. Cheers!

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@imahappyguy@lemmy.world 2026-06-04 04:55

Confidence from the person who couldn’t even remember the proper ratio in which devs get paid. I’m impressed. I’m usually much more reserved when I’ve made such a ridiculous mistake in a debate. So, in your scenario, developers should be allowed to open their game store, sell a steam key, at a discount lower than Steam to drive business? Of course that’s not allowed and nowhere near antitrust. Try harder. I said I know, intimately, that a lot of developers like Steam and are happy with them. The fact that your reading comprehension got I know Steam intimately, is indicative of poor language on my part. For that, I apologize. Of course, the Microsoft suit was significantly more complex. You trivialized it first. So, sorry I did too. Okay, I won’t tell you how the DoJ operates. Weird because there’s a lot to it, that can’t be simplified the way you have tried, dismissively. But that’s what you’ve been doing this whole time. Go figure. No, I don’t get to decide what antitrust is. Neither do you. Some judge will. Your article is hilarious. What prevents a software developer from putting out the game themselves? Just letting people buy it directly from the developer. Why is that not possible? Oh, right. Market share. I don’t want to lose out on all those people right? What if I have an exclusivity period? Sell the game myself for a year and then publish to Steam. Does Steam prevent that? Those are the type of questions that get asked in court. But you can’t think that outside the box, apparently. Appeal to authority, fair. I got someone else for it, and I’ll take my lumps for it. I would never PM you their information and that is incredibly insulting to the profession for you to even ask. Lawyers do not say things like this with their name attached to it. The only reason he was even okay with it, was this is anonymous. He would never converse with a stranger about a topic that is highly related to his job and possible cases. Weird you don’t know that quirk about lawyers. Fair enough, the natural monopoly was a misreading on my part. Apologies, as it’s late. Wait, so I’m right or wrong about antitrust? I’m confused. Oh, lovely. Another article, this time from Eurogamer. I love reading other peoples opinion. I don’t read cases, or laws, so I can’t make up my own mind. Do you realize the whole fucking point yet? THEY’RE SELLING STEAM KEYS YOU DOLT! Ya know, the things that work through Steam? That’s where price parity comes in. You can’t sell a Steam offering at a lower price than Steam. If it was only for their UPlay store, or whatever the fuck it’s called now, that’s fine. But that’s not what happened. They sold Steam keys at a lower price. That’s not competitive, that’s deliberately undercutting a high value competitor to try to gain a market share, while utilizing the resources of your competitor. But, wait, that’s starting to sound a little like antitrust. Are you a paralegal? Cause you sound like one. You say I have wasted your time. But fool that you are, you can’t see that you chose your time to be “wasted”. I’ve enjoyed our conversation. I love a good debate and I like how we went back and forth. Folks don’t usually commit, but you, I like you. Saying you think…you are smarter than lawyers practicing in the field is patronizing. For the record, the lawyers I know and have worked with, I do not think I’m smarter than them when it comes to law. You call me a bootlicker, but you’re the one ready to defend a lawsuit that will ultimately go nowhere from a company that just dealt with their workers going on strike. How’s that outsole taste?

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