Post #3267176

2026-06-08 01:46 UTC

You're also getting shitty emails about using frames. Which is weird because that's literally what everybody uses, you don't want to copy/paste all your section links across every single page of your website and then update every one every time you make a new page, so you make the navigation Once and you put it in a frame. But the most tedious men in the world are now telling you frames are no good

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@ifixcoinops@retro.social 2026-06-08 02:49

You learn about server-side includes, your server doesn't do that of course, your five megabytes of server space are free, they came with your free internet access. So you keep using frames, but it does bother you. You join a web design newsgroup. You ask a question, how come my site does this weird thing in Netscape? The answer: "Probably because you coded it badly." You leave the web design newsgroup. You're beginning to understand that there's a lot of money in this.

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@mherbert@social.chinwag.org 2026-06-08 01:50

@ifixcoinops@retro.social fsck that noise - my website is still using tables for page layout ...

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@suzannealdrich@hachyderm.io 2026-06-08 01:54

@ifixcoinops@retro.social I used cgi-bin and a Perl script to inject my header and footer from code chunks, and used clever CSS to make sure the navigation links made sense in every context.

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@SnakeOilSalesman@mastodon.social 2026-06-08 02:01

@ifixcoinops@retro.social div{margin:0 auto;} holy hell this is almost exactly me!

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@EUCWolf@bark.lgbt 2026-06-08 02:15

@ifixcoinops@retro.social This entire thread hurts my brain because, while I came to web stuff a bit later than 1998 ('04-ish), the journey basically the same just skipping straight to dreamweaver. also tables, and being told for years "no never use tables, use CSS" even when CSS wasn't nearly as powerful as it is now.

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