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2026-06-09 18:40 UTC

Okay, maybe I rushed with “any source”. 15850 are UN numbers, but 5600 comes from TASS. If look at UN numbers it’s 3404. In the graph you can also see that most casualties happened in first 2 years, after that it was a cold conflict. And only 2 deaths? Okay, what about the Hroza strike, which killed 52 people? Or the recent attack on Kyiv after the Ukrainian college strike, when a house was struck by a drone twice - doesn’t that sound like an air defense system malfunctioned? That hospital could be gone if they wanted it, and the rest of Kiev with it. So do Ukraine could kill civilians more actively. Surely not on the same scale as Russia, but still. This doesn’t happen because it isn’t practical, both in terms of media and money. It is nothing like the almost daily attacks on markets in Donetsk with countless more civilians killed. So do Ukrainian-controlled towns have also been hit by Russian attacks, including markets and shops. Like the ridiculous story where they blamed Russians for targeting the nuclear plant in Zaporizia. And I agree with you here. I don’t think it was Russia. But it’s not like only Ukraine tells ridiculous stories. For example, the Kakhovka Dam was blown up by an internal explosion while it was under Russian control, which is suspicious, to say the least.

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  • @Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2026-06-10 09:40

    It’s hard to get any news here that’s not from western biased sources since everything gets censored and blocked to ‘keep us safe from Russian propaganda’. So it’s difficult to look into all these specific events. But a quick look shows it was a funeral for Andriy Kozyr, a nazi POS. Obviously there would be plenty other nazis. Not just some normal funeral. While it’s unfortunate there are civilian casualties (for which we only have accounts from one side) it can not be sold as purely hitting civilians. And the Kakhovka Dam was indeed held by Russia. And you believe it’s not a ridiculous story that they would blow it up knowing the north (UA) ground is higher and the lower south side where the Russian troop are would flood? It also cut off water supply for Crimea and endangered the cooling of the Zaporizia nuclear power plant. So logic would suggest this is as much a BS as them targeting that same plant under their control.

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