Post #31881

2025-12-05 01:53 UTC

Assuming that LLMs hamper gaining true experience and mastery of a language, and further assuming that LLMs will play a significant part in development (especially for juniors)… it seems to me that new programming languages and frameworks will have a significantly greater hurdle to overcome going forward, compared to what they faced in the past.

Replies (7)

@TootSweet@lemmy.world 2025-12-05 02:05

I vibe code Brainfuck using Eliza.

Open ##31907
@count_dongulus@lemmy.world 2025-12-05 02:25

The LLM works via language. It’s…in the name. If a programming language that is more understandeable for a particular domain comes out, then LLMs will be useful for it just like humans will further appreciate it. Some languages just seriously blow for certain domains. Keep iterating. If a lnaguage is hard for people to use, it’s especially hard for an LLM to use.

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@sundray@lemmus.org 2025-12-05 03:49

Rust: the last programming language.

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@FishFace@piefed.social 2025-12-05 10:29

Well, they will if vibe coding takes off. But if not, it’s not that different from how it’s quite reasonable to choose python because of its massive community and archive of Stackoverflow answers.

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@tym@lemmy.world 2025-12-06 11:21

ITT: People not understanding how LLMs are trained. They tokenize words and phrases (give them serial numbers to index), study relationship and distance between tokens, and mimic the most common outcomes they’ve been trained on. It’s not magic, it’s a parrot.

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@cley_faye@lemmy.world 2025-12-06 11:41

Lot’s of assumption here. And having lived long enough to see “that’s definitely the best language ever” happens multiple times, I’m not too worried. Until we get something different than LLM that is able to actually understand what’s happening and combine things in different ways, the only thing that might dwindle in the future is the cost of rewriting the same app every six months, since an LLM might (still lots of assumption) be able to regurgitate it. People writing new things will still be required for a long time. And these people will want new, shiny languages for all the same reasons we keep making new languages to this day.

Open ##34770
@ZILtoid1991__dup_9952@lemmy.world 2025-12-08 10:52

Code without LLMs, simple as.

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